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[zirk]

NI stays under EU Control and then the EU Border becomes the barrier between NI and the rest of UK.

Pretty much 'In a Nutshell' is whats been proposed Today by the EU in their First Draft Brexit Agreement Release. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43228161

[STEMO]

And totally rejected by TM.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Wont happen, trust me.

[Kevin Wood]

I think the EU need to google "Ireland" and read for a little while. Well, it'd be a start.

.. not that I can think of any better solutions other than not reading the news for a couple of years.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I can. A wall toped with an electric fence. Its an unfriendly foreign country - Fack em. 

[STEMO]

I'm not saying it's not a good idea, along with reinstating Hadrians Wall, just saying it won't happen.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

We can still dream though. 

[zirk]

I think the EU need to google "Ireland" and read for a little while. Well, it'd be a start.

.. not that I can think of any better solutions other than not reading the news for a couple of years.

You haven't heard Their Plan B yet, Move Gibraltar to Ireland and Vice Versa. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My guess in on a BRINO rather than a BREXIT.

As things stand we seem to be getting 'a good kicking' from our European friends.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Put Jacob in charge.  ............and banish Corbyn to Siberia. 

[Kevin Wood]

I think the EU need to google "Ireland" and read for a little while. Well, it'd be a start.

.. not that I can think of any better solutions other than not reading the news for a couple of years.

You haven't heard Their Plan B yet, Move Gibraltar to Ireland and Vice Versa. 

You're right. They've gone all quiet on their "solution" for Gibraltar.

[Rods2]

EU & Eire posturing that will never happen. As I've said before the UK need to nothing as the issue is cheap ROW goods flooding through NI into Eire and then mainland Europe while not paying punitive EU import duties. If they want to build a wall to stop the trade, let them, but it FUBARs Eire politicians one Ireland plan which IMO is a good thing.

EU goods flooding into the UK will not be a big problem as ROW FTAs means EU goods will be undercut and we won't want them. The way the UK has been stitched by the EU Commission over CAP and CFP UK quotas where it has always been on the basis of 1% to the UK and 99% the other EU countries is now going to end. There are going to be a very large number of very unhappy European farmers and reduced (with UK leaving) EU Commission CAP budgets due to the reappearance of surpluses and food mountains.   Big crisis comes to mind. Justice done at last to the greedy thieving barstewards and why we have such a large balance of payments problem with the EU but are in surplus with the ROW.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The UK/Eire border has always been very porous for smuggling. No-one has cared before so why start worrying about it now ?
As long as it isn't porous to large numbers of people or terrorist activity, then nothing changes.
If it is, then the UK Govt. must retain the right to protect its citizens, as  the first duty of any Govt.

Unless the EU start making some sensible compromises, I can see a No deal scenario being the end result. Maybe they are hoping for that and gambling on the resulting chaos in the UK bringing down the Govt. and then they could walk all over Corbyn and stitch us up properly and permanently ?

[Varche]

The UK/Eire border has always been very porous for smuggling. No-one has cared before so why start worrying about it now ?
As long as it isn't porous to large numbers of people or terrorist activity, then nothing changes.
If it is, then the UK Govt. must retain the right to protect its citizens, as  the first duty of any Govt.

Unless the EU start making some sensible compromises, I can see a No deal scenario being the end result. Maybe they are hoping for that and gambling on the resulting chaos in the UK bringing down the Govt. and then they could walk all over Corbyn and stitch us up properly and permanently ?

I am thinking the same.  Banking on this government falling and inertia coming into play it is human nature to NOT want change. It is why so manybad marriages continue despite both knowing deep down a split would be for the best.

We havent even had Gibraltar yet. The EU gave Spain a veto so that may well end upbeing the crux. Spain offered last week to operate Gib airport jointly moving forward as it is on disputed land.

We have May speaking today but I bet no specifics .

[Sir Tigger KC]

Boris was on the money the other day when he said that technology is the solution to the Irish border.  Inevitably though the Leftie/Remoaner crowd get all outraged and throw the baby out with the bathwater whenever Boris speaks, so don't (or don't want to) hear the message!