Question about extensions

[tunnie]

Our house is detached, therefore I can extend 4m back from the property within permitted development.

What happens if it's just outside that? say 4.1 metres? As to extend and match the garage wall line, which is what I want to do, it is fractionally longer than 4m.

Would that need planning permission?

Builder said he's only had one inspector measure and that was due to neighbour of the extension complaining.

Finally had a decent builder around and quote is within budget, so it's plan B for us if we cannot move.

[aaronjb]

Would that need planning permission?

Yes. Otherwise you're just taking your chances .. maybe it will be fine, maybe nobody will ever ask, but if they do you could find yourself having to knock it all down.. and if it's spotted when you come to sell the house, you might find nobody wants to buy it because proper planning wasn't in place and they don't want to be faced with having to knock it down.

[deviator]

Or build it to the 4m limit and extend that in a couple months time? 

[tunnie]

Would that need planning permission?

Yes. Otherwise you're just taking your chances .. maybe it will be fine, maybe nobody will ever ask, but if they do you could find yourself having to knock it all down.. and if it's spotted when you come to sell the house, you might find nobody wants to buy it because proper planning wasn't in place and they don't want to be faced with having to knock it down.

Thanks 

Also do they measure from the outside wall I guess? It's really annoying as its just a few cm's in it.

[Doctor Gollum]

You could add a chamfer to the corner of the garage wall to balance it...

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Build it to 4.1m. Then purchase a custom measuring tape that is 2.5% out. Then helpfully lend this to anyone that wants to measure...

[Doctor Gollum]

You will also probably find that the original plan was deliberately and carefully measured to create just such an issue thereby removing the temptation to extend... Especially if the original estate builders were the land owners...

[tunnie]

I basically want to do this:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tunnie_84/Extension.png

House, Garage, Conservatory.

So building line remains to current garage, not house. But where the house ends and the garage ends, is just fraction over 4.0m.

I'd then have large kitchen/diner going into the current garage space. Luckily, the garage floor is lower than house, so can be insulated without issue.

[Doctor Gollum]

If you simultaneously extend the garage to the front building line, then you can keep the garage as well 

[tunnie]

If you simultaneously extend the garage to the front building line, then you can keep the garage as well 

Possible, but that would mean loss of 1 of my front parking bays. Also would push costs too high, already at the limits.

I'm prepared to take a huge loss on the garage and only have small storage area for tools.

[Doctor Gollum]

Buyers may not...

[tunnie]

Buyers may not...

Given my house is only one in the close with a garage, won't make any real difference. In fact out of the 25 or so modern house builds around me, I'm the only one with a garage.

It won't sell with full garage currently in place anyway, so clearly not that wanted. 

[Varche]

It is only a thought but if you are only talking about an extra 10 cm to square it up, why not apply for planning permission. Would it cost much more to do so? I

[Rods2]

Ask your local planning department for advice as IME they are normally very approachable and helpful. The minimum/maximum building line may well be the edge of your garage as that is the edge of the current building. Is the area/height of the extension and the distance from any boundary within building regs. or will you need planning permission anyway?

[tunnie]

It is only a thought but if you are only talking about an extra 10 cm to square it up, why not apply for planning permission. Would it cost much more to do so? I

There is cost time and designs and such that have to be submitted, without it saves a lot of faff.

Ask your local planning department for advice as IME they are normally very approachable and helpful. The minimum/maximum building line may well be the edge of your garage as that is the edge of the current building. Is the area/height of the extension and the distance from any boundary within building regs. or will you need planning permission anyway?

Should not need permission if it was sub 4m or 4m exactly, distance from boundary is fine.

Will contact planning dept