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[STEMO]

More changes for the sake of changes. OK, a few new apps that you can move to the last page, where all the other shite is dumped, but why do stupid, little things like change the position of the number/letter tab with the emoji tab? Why swipe down instead of up for control centre? Knobs.

Jaime will throw his out of the window. 

[dave the builder]

The only Apple product i buy goes on the side of the plate when pork is served 

I guess IOS 12 is equivalent to
windows  3̶.̶1̶ ̶9̶5̶ ̶9̶8̶ ̶9̶8̶s̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶l̶e̶n̶i̶u̶m̶ ̶X̶P̶ ̶v̶i̶s̶t̶a̶ ̶7̶ ̶7̶.̶1̶ ̶8̶ ̶8̶,̶1̶ ̶  10 

[STEMO]

The only Apple product i buy goes on the side of the plate when pork is served 

I guess IOS 12 is equivalent to
windows  3̶.̶1̶ ̶9̶5̶ ̶9̶8̶ ̶9̶8̶s̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶l̶e̶n̶i̶u̶m̶ ̶X̶P̶ ̶v̶i̶s̶t̶a̶ ̶7̶ ̶7̶.̶1̶ ̶8̶ ̶8̶,̶1̶ ̶  10 

If you're not a fanboy, I can't tell you or I'd have to kill you.

[Kevin Wood]

The only Apple product i buy goes on the side of the plate when pork is served 

I guess IOS 12 is equivalent to
windows  3̶.̶1̶ ̶9̶5̶ ̶9̶8̶ ̶9̶8̶s̶e̶ ̶m̶e̶l̶e̶n̶i̶u̶m̶ ̶X̶P̶ ̶v̶i̶s̶t̶a̶ ̶7̶ ̶7̶.̶1̶ ̶8̶ ̶8̶,̶1̶ ̶  10 

Not a cider fan, then?

Mostly, but it slows your machine down deliberately instead of due to incompetence.

[dave the builder]

Not a cider fan, then?

there is rarely any left by the time the stage coach reaches these parts with supplies  I have drank it is the past , on my many travels 
like apple sauce flavour soda pop IIRC

Mostly, but it slows your machine down deliberately instead of due to incompetence.

Gotcha  thanks 

If you're not a fanboy, I can't tell you or I'd have to kill you.

Kevin told me and he hasn't killed me 

[Allenm]

are you sure you've got a real iPhone? control centre is still swipe up, notifications is still swipe down.

can't say I've ever paid enough attention to the number and emoji tab to know if they've moved or not.

[tunnie]

Apple admitted it's more to just stabilise and improve rather than huge new gains, it's worth remembering in the not so distant past, that every couple of years we used to have to go PC World. We would then hand over a serious amount of cash, walk out with a box with "windows" written on it. Arrive home, take the CD's out and install, normally not a smooth process.

Now, we get huge software upgrades for free, in a short automated update. 

*note all platforms, Android etc also offer this, not just Apple specific.

[tunnie]

Have to say, from a development point of view, this is our easiest iOS update ever, we've not had to do anything to support it from app perspective.

Few generations ago, we used to set aside around 2-3 months work to support the latest iOS.

[Allenm]

not so sure about the development side - upgrading to Xcode 10 has royally screwed up the mac.  none of the simulators above iPhone 6 load and it crashes if you try!

[STEMO]

are you sure you've got a real iPhone? control centre is still swipe up, notifications is still swipe down.

can't say I've ever paid enough attention to the number and emoji tab to know if they've moved or not.

Control centre is swipe down from top right under battery symbol, notifications is swipe down from top centre. 

[STEMO]

https://9to5mac.com/2018/06/04/ios-12-brings-iphone-x-gestures-to-ipad/

[Allenm]

ahh, you never mentioned iPad - its still the same on the iPhone.  Haven't updated the iPad yet.

[STEMO]

ahh, you never mentioned iPad - its still the same on the iPhone.  Haven't updated the iPad yet.

Wouldn't have a gayphone if it was free. Android for phone, iOS for tablet.

[STEMO]

My avatar has disappeared as well, even though the url is still showing correctly in my profile.

[tunnie]

not so sure about the development side - upgrading to Xcode 10 has royally screwed up the mac.  none of the simulators above iPhone 6 load and it crashes if you try!

We are only just starting that, luckily Xcode 10 was not a requirement for iOS 12, only from March 2019 for App submissions.

You on the beta? Final one is released, about to update our CI nodes.