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[Webby the Bear]

Hi guys.

I went on a boys trip paint balling and I drove the passion wagon (the omega). Other than the wheel balancing on the front (😤) the omega is stable in the dry at speed. However in the rain it felt really unstable. I am a bit of a fanny in those conditions i will concede but I dropped down to 50-55 in the slow lane and it was ok. Then there were Audi’s and BMWs bombing past at warp speed.

What’s your experience of this in the omega? Can u bomb it when it’s pouring down?

[VXL V6]

Yes, but suspension, tyres and geometry all need to be spot on Imho

[Andy B]

It depends on tyres ..... 

[aaronjb]

It depends on tyres ..... 

Also on gonads. And brains.

Without being there at the time, we can't really say if Webby is a bit of a wuss, or the BMW/Audi drivers are retards living on the edge of aquaplaning into a ditch.. could be either, because I've seen plenty of both when driving in the rain!

[Webby the Bear]

Cheers boys.

I suspect the geometry setup is out of WIM spec cos I did it two years ago. I’m doing that again very soon. However I do have shit tyres (cheap BCTs). The only thing going for them is that they’re so hard they’ve been on for 3.5 years and still have 6mm tread 🤔🤔🤔

[Webby the Bear]

And I will add it was torrential lol

[STEMO]

As I've stated in previous posts, I do not hang around on motorways. But even I slow right down in heavy rain, around 65 is the speed I feel comfortable with. I firmly believe that most modern, high end cars are perfectly safe at high speeds in the rain on the motorway, but it is the lack of skill and judgement of the drivers that is a concern.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

As I've stated in previous posts, I do not hang around on motorways. But even I slow right down in heavy rain, around 65 is the speed I feel comfortable with. I firmly believe that most modern, high end cars are perfectly safe at high speeds in the rain on the motorway, but it is the lack of skill and judgement of the drivers that is a concern.

Some people believe  because we have ABS and ESP/DSC on modern cars, that it is impossible to lose grip.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Cheers boys.

I suspect the geometry setup is out of WIM spec cos I did it two years ago. I’m doing that again very soon. However I do have shit tyres (cheap BCTs). The only thing going for them is that they’re so hard they’ve been on for 3.5 years and still have 6mm tread 🤔🤔🤔

There is your issue. You pay your money and make your choice. 

[Webby the Bear]

Couldn’t agree more stemo. These guys driving as if it’s not raining to me is mental. But on the other side of that I probably do need a full geo set up and decent tyres.

On the subject of alignment I remember marksDTM mentioned the use of an airbag to help with setting front camber (as it is a pain in the arse with me holding a bar whilst mate tightens strut bolts). Anyone ever used one and if so was it super helpful?

[tunnie]

WIM'd 3.2 here with Kumho's stays quite planted in the wet, tyres getting a bit low but all have even wear. 

[Shackeng]

It's worth remembering the aquaplaning formula; 9 x √P (P= tyre pressure), so for 36PSI your aquaplaning speed ~
54mph.
This will vary from tyre to tyre, but is a useful rough guide.

[STEMO]

It's worth remembering the aquaplaning formula; 9 x √P (P= tyre pressure), so for 36PSI your aquaplaning speed ~
54mph.

Yes, but that doesn't take into account the tread pattern or depth or, indeed, the circumference of the tyre



Cheat! You added that afterwards to make me think I was going daft 

[amba]

Mine stays well planted at motorway speed ;)in rain or dry but have tended to notice in really heavy downpours the front seems to go a little light almost like aqua-planning but only when getting a shift on.

Drop down abit and its back to stable again.

Running on Continentals with a good 6mm on all 4 and alignment spot on 

[STEMO]

Of course, no one has mentioned the old RWD v FWD situation. Give me FWD anytime in wet conditions on the motorway.