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Dart crossing charge
« on: 04 January 2019, 20:42:49 »
Arrived in the UK today.

Had quite an uneventful but interesting  journey from Spain.

Plenty of yellow jackets out protesting at various roundabouts. One in Rouen had a shocking amount of burnt debris . Bitterly cold so understandable but we dont see much on tv  just whatgoes on in Paris. I can understand them complaining about the price of tractor fuel. 1.11 when we filled up in Spain. Had to put some in to get off a toll road in France. 165 cents. Not cheap here either.

Traffic on UK motorways was as heavy as I expected. Plenty of new 50 mph speed limits for Smartening.

Biggest shock was having to pay  the Dart crossing charge online. I have heard the Algarve to Spain border is similar with no cash option.

Nice being able to change to mph and change headlights to “ foreign” via dash menu as we left Euro tunnel.
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #1 on: 04 January 2019, 21:29:07 »
Wait until after 10pm? And it's free ;D
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #2 on: 04 January 2019, 21:38:39 »
Might still be free if I foget to pay it.....
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #3 on: 04 January 2019, 21:48:58 »
Quote from: Varche on 04 January 2019, 21:38:39
Might still be free if I foget to pay it.....
;D

I believe the correct response to any correspondence on that matter is "Que?".
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #4 on: 04 January 2019, 23:11:10 »
Well 154,502 foreign lorry drivers have not paid £1 million Dart Charges in 2018.  Surprise, surprise eh!!

You will therefore be fine Varche if your car has Spanish plates! ;D ;)
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #5 on: 04 January 2019, 23:20:51 »
Couldnt believe how many foreign lorries were on the m20 and the M25 then M1 north.

The roads will be a lot quieter after end of March when they are all parked up.

The French toll roads are fairly light on lorries. I guess it is such a cut throat business that a 50 euro charge would eat up your profits.
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #6 on: 04 January 2019, 23:24:35 »
Probably because the trailers carry different plates to the front end ::)

I know of an American who got billed by a collection agency for several hundred dollars for two tickets months after a driving holiday in Italy...

If the Italians can figure it out, I am sure the Froggies that run the Dartford crossing will...
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #7 on: 04 January 2019, 23:26:14 »
Quote from: Varche on 04 January 2019, 20:42:49
Arrived in the UK today.

Had quite an uneventful but interesting  journey from Spain.

Plenty of yellow jackets out protesting at various roundabouts. One in Rouen had a shocking amount of burnt debris . Bitterly cold so understandable but we dont see much on tv  just whatgoes on in Paris. I can understand them complaining about the price of tractor fuel. 1.11 when we filled up in Spain. Had to put some in to get off a toll road in France. 165 cents. Not cheap here either.

Traffic on UK motorways was as heavy as I expected. Plenty of new 50 mph speed limits for Smartening.

Biggest shock was having to pay  the Dart crossing charge online. I have heard the Algarve to Spain border is similar with no cash option.

Nice being able to change to mph and change headlights to “ foreign” via dash menu as we left Euro tunnel.

Agree can`t have fun anymore  :(
Repeat after me ; "My Desmond wasn`t in sports mode & I was only driving at 69 mph"  ;D

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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #8 on: 05 January 2019, 09:42:52 »
Taking the Jag to euroland this year.  Its a bumper off job to change the headlights to neutral.  Can't see them allowing me to do that on the ferry ;D
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #9 on: 05 January 2019, 10:42:22 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 05 January 2019, 09:42:52
Taking the Jag to euroland this year.  Its a bumper off job to change the headlights to neutral.  Can't see them allowing me to do that on the ferry ;D

Never bothered doing it, and having been thro "controlle" a few times they never seem to bother...

As for non payment of Dartford,and congestion charge,  they pass it over to a collection agency, Every so often you hear of a flip flop being stopped and charged with non payment, but it's not common,  anpr cameras struggle to read euro plates,,, and the trailers with two number plates, is 1 is trailer registration,the other is for unit,  after Brexit, UK trailers heading over will have two number plates.,and yes there is a £25 fee to register. per trailer..
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #10 on: 06 January 2019, 19:57:07 »
Quote from: Lizzie Zoom on 04 January 2019, 23:11:10
Well 154,502 foreign lorry drivers have not paid £1 million Dart Charges in 2018.  Surprise, surprise eh!!

You will therefore be fine Varche if your car has Spanish plates! ;D ;)
They WILL try and get you in Fines.

The Dart Charge is actually a Congestion Charge and Funds go to TFL, they have a pretty good track record of getting there unpaid Fee's, so much so in fact that all of the TFL unpaid Fees and Fines Income amount almost match the the amount of Revenue that People pay on the Day.
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #11 on: 06 January 2019, 21:32:57 »
Yep, it was changed to a congestion charge several years ago, when it was sold to the French. The reason given for it being a congestion charge was because of the localised pollution. The cause of the localised pollution was vehicles queuing to pay the charge.
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #12 on: 06 January 2019, 21:47:43 »
After they removed the toll booths - what queues? Or is that your point, Albs? :y

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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #13 on: 06 January 2019, 22:28:29 »
I simply avoid it now you have to @rse around online. I was happy to chuck some cash in the bucket when they had toll booths. Their loss. ::)
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Re: Dart crossing charge
« Reply #14 on: 06 January 2019, 22:33:13 »
Quote from: Bigron on 06 January 2019, 21:47:43
After they removed the toll booths - what queues? Or is that your point, Albs? :y

Ron.

After they removed the toll booths Ron, the feeble excuse for calling it a congestion charge should have become null & void, but they didn't bother to tell the truth even then. That its just a money spinner.
Originally the charge was supposed to pay the cost of building the crossing, Then it would become free.
Then it was extended to build up a maintenance fund, then it became a congestion charge...…….
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