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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #15 on: 19 August 2008, 22:50:37 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?

Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...

Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y


Enough RAM for XP
not really, unless your needs are just web browsing and bit of email


My home PC ran well until recently on 512MB just started to choke on image manipulation, now got 1GB
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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #16 on: 19 August 2008, 22:52:11 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y

What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?

We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.

I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y
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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #17 on: 19 August 2008, 22:55:06 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y
What is the spec of the machine?

Video accelerator is part of the graphics card, and it uses extra inbuilt hardware to improve certain graphical tasks...

Well it has 512mb ram, an IntelŪ 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (No vista driver), 160 gig hard drive, anything else, just say :y


Enough RAM for XP
not really, unless your needs are just web browsing and bit of email


My home PC ran well until recently on 512MB just started to choke on image manipulation, now got 1GB
Apps are getting more feature packed/bloated, so memory requirements have risen.  When XP came out 256Mb was enough. With SP2, 512Mb was minimum, but now I wouldn't go below 1024Mb.

Before I fired up the VMs, my works laptop was using around 750Mb memory earlier when I checked...
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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #18 on: 19 August 2008, 22:57:20 »

Obviously, Vista's hardware requirements higher than XP's, so 1.5G minimum really.

My own laptop is sat here with Outlook 2007, IE7, puTTY, and task manager open, 1.06G committed memory.
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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #19 on: 19 August 2008, 22:59:41 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y

What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?

We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.

I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y

Are programs making use of the quad cores.

I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet.  and it's normally the games that want more of everything.

I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go.  :-/
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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #20 on: 19 August 2008, 23:02:18 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y

What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?

We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.

I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y

Are programs making use of the quad cores.

I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet.  and it's normally the games that want more of everything.

I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go.  :-/
Games programming is some of the worse out there.  Very rarely do they kick off asyncronous processes.

Multicore only worthwhile if main apps you are running are multithreaded, which most big commercial apps are.

Games are starting become multithreaded at last, but way behind good apps.
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« Reply #21 on: 19 August 2008, 23:03:13 »

Well a quad core is not much more and I will need to move to HD sooner rather than later.

I use Video Studio 9 for editing, that is a bit of a resource hog, but still only uses peak memory of around 70MB which is not much I thought.

However I use an ancient copy of DVD Movie factory to capture as VS9 wants to mess with field order and I do not like that.

I still use TMPGENC XP to do the encoding - got a Dolby Digital addon too!

Only been editing for 23 years!!! Started using a Sanyo as a play back with my Sony portable as an editor, then used the portable as playback with a Sony SLHF950 as edit deck.

Moved to NLE within weeks of getting this PC
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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #22 on: 19 August 2008, 23:04:30 »

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Obviously, Vista's hardware requirements higher than XP's, so 1.5G minimum really.

My own laptop is sat here with Outlook 2007, IE7, puTTY, and task manager open, 1.06G committed memory.


VS9 IE6 and 626MB available :y
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« Reply #23 on: 19 August 2008, 23:08:03 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y

What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?

We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.

I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y

Are programs making use of the quad cores.

I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet.  and it's normally the games that want more of everything.

I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go.  :-/


Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.

My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
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« Reply #24 on: 19 August 2008, 23:23:43 »

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my machine is a samsung v25 and it is over 18 months old unfortunatly :'(

So all in all you think i should stay on xp then.

I tried vistamizer 3 times now but keeps slowing down and crashing my laptop, i dont know why, other people get on fine.

Just a quick question, what is a video accelerator because someone on another forum has done what i was thinking of doing and had the same problem and he says everything worked fine until he went to watch videos or play games (They turnt out really slow) and then he got the idea of a video accelerator, what is it? :-/

Thanks for all the quick reples by the way, im most grateful :y :y :y :y

What benefits were you looking for with a cross grade?

We were discussing this yesterday at work, we haven't replaced a work station in ages, as now PCs are generally fast enough, also keep a developer on a not state of art machine, will keep them focused on keeping the code efficient, yes I have sat there changing small amounts of code to tweak say a 30% improvement out of a module.

I do fancy a dual core with about 1.5 to 2 TB of hard drive for video editing
For that kind of work, quad cores aren't much more expensive, and you'll make use of the cores :y

Are programs making use of the quad cores.

I was led to believe a while back that not even the high end games were making use of the Quad core CPU's as yet.  and it's normally the games that want more of everything.

I may be wrong on what I was told, but there you go.  :-/
Games programming is some of the worse out there.  Very rarely do they kick off asyncronous processes.

Multicore only worthwhile if main apps you are running are multithreaded, which most big commercial apps are.

Games are starting become multithreaded at last, but way behind good apps.

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Re: Computer Help
« Reply #25 on: 20 August 2008, 18:44:21 »

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Well a quad core is not much more and I will need to move to HD sooner rather than later.

I use Video Studio 9 for editing, that is a bit of a resource hog, but still only uses peak memory of around 70MB which is not much I thought.

However I use an ancient copy of DVD Movie factory to capture as VS9 wants to mess with field order and I do not like that.

I still use TMPGENC XP to do the encoding - got a Dolby Digital addon too!

Only been editing for 23 years!!! Started using a Sanyo as a play back with my Sony portable as an editor, then used the portable as playback with a Sony SLHF950 as edit deck.

Moved to NLE within weeks of getting this PC
I think you'll likely find that more 'professional' software will be faster, and with better end result, but use more resources in the process.  More likely to use multi cores as well.

Don't do much video editing, so no expert I'm afraid.
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« Reply #26 on: 20 August 2008, 18:46:48 »

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Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.

My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
Seem to recall you use quite an old, slow P4, and likely with an old slow chipset (the most important part of a PC) with it.  Newer generation cpu would help enormously, as would a more modern memory controller...
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« Reply #27 on: 20 August 2008, 19:32:52 »

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Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.

My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
Seem to recall you use quite an old, slow P4, and likely with an old slow chipset (the most important part of a PC) with it.  Newer generation cpu would help enormously, as would a more modern memory controller...


P4 2.4 5 years old in November 266 DDR RAM
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« Reply #28 on: 20 August 2008, 19:38:23 »

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Video editing is hard on a PC, only when P4s and XP came out was PC editing really practical. Rendering is quite slow and my PC will take a day to encode a 2 hour film to a DVD5 at best quality 2 pass variable bit rate, so now I use constant bit rate and DVD9 when needed.

My PC even had to work hard on capturing. Especially as I used to capture raw uncompressed at over 1.2GB per minute until I got the MiniDV camera
Seem to recall you use quite an old, slow P4, and likely with an old slow chipset (the most important part of a PC) with it.  Newer generation cpu would help enormously, as would a more modern memory controller...


P4 2.4 5 years old in November 266 DDR RAM
Yup, so old, slow P4. Possibly not hyperthreaded, not that hyperthreading is suited to that sort of work.  slow memory will hurt video editing as well.  Updated hardware will make a difference with video.

I'm guessing even my laptop (2.0G Core2 Duo, 965 chipset, 2G) will outperform on video work, despite laptop HDD...
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