Why do we want to leave the EU?

[STEMO]

Read the fourth paragraph:

Calls to ban low-level letterboxes and adopt EU standard http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46895002

[ronnyd]

Think of the poor old postie you heartless bugger. 

[redelitev6]

Read the fourth paragraph:

Calls to ban low-level letterboxes and adopt EU standard http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46895002

I knew there would be a reason for all this Brexit hassle , thank god we'll soon be out of it 

[Sir Tigger KC]

So the Communication Workers Union have been trying to get the regulations on the height of letterboxes changed for 60 years? 

Not very good are they? 

[New POD]

When you say WE ? I don't personally, and nobody I know under 60, wants to either.

We all knew it would be a clusterf-u-ck of shite.

[Viral_Jim]

Read the fourth paragraph:

Calls to ban low-level letterboxes and adopt EU standard http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46895002

This strikes me as another piece of media-led bullshittery. Clearly the eu rules aren't mandatory, or by definition they'd be in place over here already, do not sure what the fuss is about?

Ok, so the EU have a standard height that they suggest post boxes should be, but clearly the CWU have an idea as well. So it's hardly a unique thing to the EU.

In actual fact, the only person at fault here is the bloody MP who raised it when, frankly there are better things to be discussed.

[Andy B]

.... and nobody I know under 60, wants to either.

....

I do  ..... (though you don't know me personally  )

[Doctor Gollum]

When you say WE ? I don't personally, and nobody I know under 60, wants to either.

We all knew it would be a clusterf-u-ck of shite.

But you clearly live in a socialist enclave... Almost nobody I know has ever been anything other than Leave...

As Sean Tuohy once remarked, "Who knew we would adopt a black child before we met our first Democrat..." or words to that effect...

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I beg to differ. It is a good measure of whether or not someone is a real Socialist or a wannabe version, to enquire if they believe in EU membership.
Tony Benn, Michael Foot, Peter Shore, Barbara Castle, Dennis Skinner. Jeremy Corbyn until he became leader, Neil Kinnock, until they offered him a post Westminster lucrative career, and almost unbelievably, Tony Blair until he got addicted to power for its own sake - were all very much against it.

Just one example of many on how Benn felt about the EU.


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tony+benn+on+the+eu&view=detail&mid=CBD0CFC998E4C6F6D2D7CBD0CFC998E4C6F6D2D7&FORM=VIRE

[TheBoy]

But you clearly live in a socialist enclave... Almost nobody I know has ever been anything other than Leave...

You know me, and this is far from a socialist town. Hell, we don't even have tree huggers here.

[Doctor Gollum]

True enough and in reality the in/out split is not a traditional political one...

The word I meant to use was millenialistic but I must have been up all of five minutes when I typed that

Liverpool is generally known as a hotbed of lefty sentimentalist and I figured it might raise an eyebrow or so...

[STEMO]

True enough and in reality the in/out split is not a traditional political one...

The word I meant to use was millenialistic but I must have been up all of five minutes when I typed that

Liverpool is generally known as a hotbed of lefty sentimentalist and I figured it might raise an eyebrow or so...

Generally..Average....words that have no meaning.

[Darius]

I agree with your original question - it is a stupid idea to leave the EU.  For one thing we need the European Court to protect us from our own government.

Let me give you two examples though there are many more.

Air pollution

Each year about 40,000 people in the UK die an early death because of air pollution.  The UK does not meet the UK's legal standard for air cleanliness. 

What does the UK government do about it?  Nothing.  In fact the UK appeals every - it has appealed all three rulings so far - court ruling finding it is breaking the law. So much for "caring UK conservatism".

What does the EU do about it?  The EU cares more for UK citizens than does the UK government and, fed up with years where the UK government broke its own laws and did nothing, earlier this year EU took the UK (and four other countries?) to court for failing to meet air cleanliness standards.  So we are more likely to get clean air because of the EU than because of our own government.

Sewage on beaches

Remember finding raw sewage on the beaches up to the early 1990s when only one beach in five met EU standards?  What did the UK government do about it?  Absolutely nothing.  No - I apologise - that is not true.  The UK government declared that Blackpool beach was not a popular bathing beach so pollution standards did not apply to it.  That is hypocrisy - let's lie about it so we can ignore it.  Who cares about those who actually use Blackpool beach - the UK government doesn't.

What did the EU do about it?  The EU cares far more about its citizens than does the UK government.  In 1993, fed up with years where the UK government broke its own laws and did nothing, the EU took the UK to court and the European Court ruled that the UK must clean its beaches.  The result?  No sewage on Blackpool beach.  See The EU's effect on Blackpool's beaches – before and after pictures at https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/13/the-eus-effect-on-blackpools-beaches-before-and-after-pictures

[STEMO]

Jean Claude! Save us! 

[STEMO]

Oh....and, if you're that interested in air pollution, climb out of your diesel omega and buy a milk float.