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Started by aaronjb, 17 January 2019, 14:00:02

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aaronjb

Random question of the day:

Dedicated machines for skimming heads exist - they look like big single-purpose milling machines, to me, with a giant fly-cutter head.

Is there any reason you couldn't strap a head down to a suitably large general-purpose vertical mill (like a Bridgeport) and skim the head with any fly cutter large enough to clear the complete head surface? I can't think of one, but maybe I'm missing some Machinist Devilry..

</random thought of the day>

Doctor Gollum

Could the weight of the head pull the support plate of vertical far enough to cause a discrepancy one end to other :-\
Onanists always think outside the box.

aaronjb

It's possible that a Bridgeport wouldn't be rigid enough - heads are sizeable castings and I don't know (since I don't have one, sad times) what kind of parallelism and accuracy you could get out of a well maintained Bridgeport (knackered old examples excluded, obviously, which is probably most of them at this point!) vs a head-skimming machine..

Nick W

If the mill is properly trammed, and has enough table travel there's no reason why you can't skim a head with one.
Just like you can bore a motor cycle cylinder in a lathe.


The specialist equipment for this sort of work is to save time, and make a better job easier.

aaronjb

Quote from: Nick W on 17 January 2019, 17:24:39
If the mill is properly trammed, and has enough table travel there's no reason why you can't skim a head with one.
Just like you can bore a motor cycle cylinder in a lathe.


The specialist equipment for this sort of work is to save time, and make a better job easier.

Thought that would probably be the case ..  :y Not that I'd fit anything but a tiny bike pot on my little Myford ;D and I farmed my engine work out to someone who knows what they're doing.. but I was curious :)

Nick W

Quote from: aaronjb on 17 January 2019, 19:28:52
Quote from: Nick W on 17 January 2019, 17:24:39
If the mill is properly trammed, and has enough table travel there's no reason why you can't skim a head with one.
Just like you can bore a motor cycle cylinder in a lathe.


The specialist equipment for this sort of work is to save time, and make a better job easier.

Thought that would probably be the case ..  :y Not that I'd fit anything but a tiny bike pot on my little Myford ;D and I farmed my engine work out to someone who knows what they're doing.. but I was curious :)


A car cylinder head is going to really stretch a Bridgeport size mill, as you need a cutter large enough to cover the width in one pass and enough table travel to clear both ends. Fixturing could be tricky too.

Marks DTM Calib

Of course you can, the guy I used to get heads skimmed by had a big Bridgport and used nothing else (and he skimmed stacks of heads), when measured after they were spot on.

aaronjb

*pines quietly for a Bridgeport, knackered or otherwise* ;D

Nick W

Quote from: aaronjb on 18 January 2019, 09:08:13
*pines quietly for a Bridgeport, knackered or otherwise* ;D


It's not the mill, but having space for one. I bought the biggest lathe I had room for, and it's still a benchtop job; I don't really have room for the mini-mill, but it's necessary. I'd like a bandsaw too, and a permanent spot for the benchgrinder that isn't a shelf over the cellar door....