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The final nail in the motorists coffin
« on: 27 March 2019, 06:20:16 »
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #1 on: 27 March 2019, 07:29:05 »
Just another step towards autonomous vehicles.Meanwhile it must surely take marques such as Bugatti,Lamboughini,Ferrari etc at least close to if not over the edge?Get ready to stock up on your Ford Sts VXRs etc.as surely there'll be no point paying extra for the "fast" one of the range if it won't go any faster than the bog basic slug of the range?
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #2 on: 27 March 2019, 07:42:05 »
In a free society we are free to break the law and the state has the right to punish us if we are caught doing so.
When this happens it is one of the more obvious signs that we are far from a free society now.

Old cars will rocket in value, so hang on to them.
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #3 on: 27 March 2019, 07:45:28 »
I have been saying this is the future for years now.

Enjoy it now while you can. Speed, vicious acceleration and braking and cornering, crossing the white line to straighten corners will all be a thing of the past. Thrills will be got at theme parks or online. I also predict charging for how you drive, when and how many in the vehicle. Mind you I also predict preparing meals at home will be a thing of the past with meal bars instead being dispensed from a machine based on your work output, weight etc.
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #4 on: 27 March 2019, 07:51:06 »
Just switch it off.

Had limiters on trucks for years.
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #5 on: 27 March 2019, 11:13:48 »
Similarly, hasn't Japan had a limit on max speed for ages :-\ Besides unofficially everything is limited to a Vmax of 155mph already.

Most road fatalities are caused by stupidity rather than speed. Driving at 150 an empty motorway is inherently safer than parking in the same place as Terry's sister or my Nan ::)
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #6 on: 27 March 2019, 11:15:11 »
Do you think it will be that easy to be able to switch off?
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #7 on: 27 March 2019, 11:19:16 »
Quote from: Varche on 27 March 2019, 11:15:11
Do you think it will be that easy to be able to switch off?

Yup,, its already been said it will be a switchable system, that can also be overridden by acceleration.   
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #8 on: 27 March 2019, 11:56:20 »
The intention must surely be to make it non switchable in future generations. Otherwise its a pointless gimmick.
It may even be planned to have the vehicle linked to a database which automatically prosecutes the driver.
Its all perfectly possible, they just need to soften us up for acceptance first.
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #9 on: 27 March 2019, 12:11:31 »
Yet that 'slippery slope' hasn't happened with HGV drivers?
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #10 on: 27 March 2019, 12:32:20 »
Quote from: Migv6 on 27 March 2019, 07:42:05
In a free society we are free to break the law and the state has the right to punish us if we are caught doing so.
When this happens it is one of the more obvious signs that we are far from a free society now.

Old cars will rocket in value, so hang on to them.


On Radio 2 now.


Yet another step toward a frightened risk averse wrapped in cotton wool society.

Will it save lives?.......probably.

Is it desirable for anyone except those timid souls who want to ban everything that has an element of risk?

I was speaking to a twenty something snowflake recently who said the Isle of Man TT should be banned because it is dangerous........OFFS.... :-X





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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #11 on: 27 March 2019, 12:57:11 »
Quote from: jimmy944 on 27 March 2019, 12:11:31
Yet that 'slippery slope' hasn't happened with HGV drivers?
It has within some companies  :-X

And is used for disciplinary purposes. Said company also automatically shares with the DVSA.

Safety First and all that  :-X

Should actually be Profits at any cost, especially staff welfare/moral.
« Last Edit: 27 March 2019, 13:02:56 by Doctor Gollum »
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #12 on: 27 March 2019, 13:43:51 »
Quote from: biggriffin on 27 March 2019, 11:19:16
Quote from: Varche on 27 March 2019, 11:15:11
Do you think it will be that easy to be able to switch off?

Yup,, its already been said it will be a switchable system, that can also be overridden by acceleration.

Its based on standard ADAS forward facing cameras.

If you chose to turn it on (with current vehicles), it 'limits' your speed on the assumption that it has correctly read the speed limit sign OR the satnav database is up to date.....if you floor it you get a ping and it exceeds the limit. Reality is that the limits change and the satnav is not updated plus speed signs, if dirty or obscured, don't get read!

I expect the change will be for the system to default to on and need turning off at every ignition cycle (as per the legislation that pushes stop/start that way)....then maybe on with no off option
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #13 on: 27 March 2019, 18:13:14 »
Also it's not just a speed limiter they're on about,there's the "boozelock"[that could be a good thing]and the system will also decide whether you're drowsy or not paying enough attention-don't know what happens if you're on the motorway and it figures you're too tired to drive? and also a "black box"operating on similar principles to those fitted in aircraft-but who's to say it's only recording/storing info and not downloading it somewhere?
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Re: The final nail in the motorists coffin
« Reply #14 on: 27 March 2019, 19:46:19 »
No worries Mate, I be going on a Walk About Down Under and get myself a proper Vauxhall V8 that doesnt have all this Poffie Palava Tech on it, the only Restriction it will have will be TC with a Button marked On/Off.
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