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Started by STEMO, 22 May 2019, 20:34:56

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biggriffin

I hope, that if Boris wins he is strong enough to stand up to the EU, and the rest and Tell them this is what's happening.
Hoof'land storeman.

Nick W

Quote from: biggriffin on 24 May 2019, 09:51:28
I hope, that if Boris wins he is strong enough to stand up to the EU, and the rest and Tell them this is what's happening.


Fat chance.
Boris is an opportunist, addicted to short term gambling because he's incapable of planning beyond what he might have for lunch. He'll take one look at the clusteropps from the last three years and cave in.

STEMO

The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.

Nick W

Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.


yes, it worked so well last time.

STEMO

Quote from: Nick W on 24 May 2019, 17:04:55
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.


yes, it worked so well last time.
That's why it would focus their minds, obviously.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.

Parliament is about 80% remain. :)

STEMO

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2019, 17:28:24
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.

Parliament is about 80% remain. :)
Then we remain, and on their own heads be it.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 17:36:27
Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2019, 17:28:24
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.

Parliament is about 80% remain. :)
Then we remain, and on their own heads be it.

I thought it was the will of the people that counted rather than a mere 650 MP's. :)

dave the builder

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2019, 17:48:20
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 17:36:27
Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2019, 17:28:24
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.

Parliament is about 80% remain. :)
Then we remain, and on their own heads be it.

I thought it was the will of the people that counted rather than a mere 650 MP's. :)
:D ;D
you should do stand up  :)

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2019, 17:48:20
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 17:36:27
Quote from: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2019, 17:28:24
Quote from: STEMO on 24 May 2019, 16:53:31
The next leader should just knock everyone in the party into line. He/she should say that the choice is leave or remain and they either all vote for one or the other or he/she will call a general election. That would focus their minds.

Parliament is about 80% remain. :)
Then we remain, and on their own heads be it.

I thought it was the will of the people that counted rather than a mere 650 MP's. :)

When the 650 MP's voted to subcontract a decision to the people, then you'd think that the will of the people would count for something....  ::)
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Nick W

Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 May 2019, 17:56:22

When the 650 MP's voted to subcontract a decision to the people, then you'd think that the will of the people would count for something....  ::)


we have a representative democracy, where the will of the people is subcontracted to those 650MPs.

Migv6 le Frog Fan

Wrong. They agreed to subcontract that decision to the electorate and promised they would implement it. That's why most of them wont admit to wanting to stop it, but are doing everything they can think of to do just that.
Its weird being the same age as old people !

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Nick W on 24 May 2019, 17:59:17
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 May 2019, 17:56:22

When the 650 MP's voted to subcontract a decision to the people, then you'd think that the will of the people would count for something....  ::)


we have a representative democracy, where the will of the people is subcontracted to those 650MPs.

Ah yes the result of the referendum was just advisory... 
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Lizzie Zoom

Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 May 2019, 18:12:50
Quote from: Nick W on 24 May 2019, 17:59:17
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 May 2019, 17:56:22

When the 650 MP's voted to subcontract a decision to the people, then you'd think that the will of the people would count for something....  ::)


we have a representative democracy, where the will of the people is subcontracted to those 650MPs.

Ah yes the result of the referendum was just advisory...


I think we have yet another Brexit thread developing here...................................so, hey ho here we go.......................

The problem is now, as much as I understand 52% of voters stated they wanted to leave the EU, based on questionable 'facts', it was over 3 YEARS ago.  Without going  through all the details yet again, I will ask one question:

If you had a much loved patient very ill in hospital and the doctors told you 3 years ago of the treatment they wanted to administer, and needed your agreement / vote and it was delayed for whatever reason until today, would you still accept their findings of 3 years ago and tell them to just go ahead no matter what new risks now exist to adversely affect their desperate health?

I leave you to decide the answer in terms of the ill patient being the UK......................................... ;)

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Nick W on 24 May 2019, 17:59:17
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 24 May 2019, 17:56:22

When the 650 MP's voted to subcontract a decision to the people, then you'd think that the will of the people would count for something....  ::)


we have a representative democracy, where the will of the people is subcontracted to those 650MPs.

True.....but MP's are there to represent the views of their constituents rather than simply their own
personal views.