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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #15 on: 12 August 2008, 20:33:04 »

As I removed the plug, I saw it go in the hole..
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #16 on: 12 August 2008, 20:35:08 »

voted James, Let the booger burn, but turn it my hand a few times first. :y
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #17 on: 12 August 2008, 20:49:16 »

I dont suppose there is room to get a gas torch blowlamp type thing anywhere near the plug hole to burn it first? if the piston is at tdc you have a fair chance of melting it into a small puddle which wouldnt do any damage?

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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #18 on: 12 August 2008, 21:18:50 »

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ok heres my take on this, first off it wont burn immediately so will be in there bouncing up and down a couple of times minimum, second just suppose it gets sent out of the exhaust valve route, imagine what happens if it gets caught between the fast moving valve and  the valve seat, it will probably bend the valve or worse hold the valve open while the piston comes up to meet it!!so i dont think i would be starting it all with it in there, are you absolutley sure it did go in the plug hole? it would have to be a very lucvky shot indeed, and if you cant feel it in there i would guess it didnt actualy go in??
just my opinion James hope it gives you food for thought?

Thats my biggest concern,as above if the rubber gets wedged and holds a valve open and the piston hits the open valve, no matter how soft the rubber it'll bend the valve.
its a very hard call, and i'm inclined to say burn too, but as with anything in life - what are the odd's?
are you a lucky kinda bloke? (guess not having dropped the rubber in the first place lol)

Wish you the best of luck either way fella  :y

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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #19 on: 12 August 2008, 21:21:23 »

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I dont suppose there is room to get a gas torch blowlamp type thing anywhere near the plug hole to burn it first? if the piston is at tdc you have a fair chance of melting it into a small puddle which wouldnt do any damage?

 :y

I like that idea.....
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #20 on: 12 August 2008, 21:36:38 »

Sorry, but I'm a believer that if it can go wrong it will, and usually at the worst time. Strip it down and fetch it out.... Sorry but this is what I would so.
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #21 on: 12 August 2008, 21:47:35 »

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I dont suppose there is room to get a gas torch blowlamp type thing anywhere near the plug hole to burn it first? if the piston is at tdc you have a fair chance of melting it into a small puddle which wouldnt do any damage?

 :y

I like that idea.....

only thing i can think of that saves having to strip it down :y

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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #22 on: 12 August 2008, 21:52:33 »

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I dont suppose there is room to get a gas torch blowlamp type thing anywhere near the plug hole to burn it first? if the piston is at tdc you have a fair chance of melting it into a small puddle which wouldnt do any damage?

 :y

I like that idea.....
Would need to be oxy-acetylene. But yes, good idea.
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #23 on: 12 August 2008, 22:08:48 »

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I dont suppose there is room to get a gas torch blowlamp type thing anywhere near the plug hole to burn it first? if the piston is at tdc you have a fair chance of melting it into a small puddle which wouldnt do any damage?

 :y

I like that idea.....
Would need to be oxy-acetylene. But yes, good idea.

Wonder if a heat gun would do the same job?  Probably not, I suppose, despite those things getting really hot...
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #24 on: 12 August 2008, 22:46:12 »

hi try puting a small dia rubber/clear hose on end of hover and try to suck the bit out have used this in the past   :y                                   mick
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #25 on: 12 August 2008, 22:52:10 »

Is it the sort of rubber that would float?
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #26 on: 12 August 2008, 23:01:58 »

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I dont suppose there is room to get a gas torch blowlamp type thing anywhere near the plug hole to burn it first? if the piston is at tdc you have a fair chance of melting it into a small puddle which wouldnt do any damage?

 :y

I like that idea.....
Would need to be oxy-acetylene. But yes, good idea.

Wonder if a heat gun would do the same job?  Probably not, I suppose, despite those things getting really hot...
Was thinking that there's no oxygen in there to support a flame (after a very short time) so no heat would actually get to the rubber. Oxy-acetylene is both very hot and supplies it's own oxygen.
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #27 on: 13 August 2008, 06:49:50 »

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Was thinking that there's no oxygen in there to support a flame (after a very short time) so no heat would actually get to the rubber. Oxy-acetylene is both very hot and supplies it's own oxygen.

It would also melt a piston rather easily, so would need a bit of care.

I think my concern is bottom end damage. It could wedge a valve open to be clouted by the piston, but then you're only into a head-off job to fix it. That's the other option being contemplated as a fix so no harm in trying really. However, if it jammed against the squish area so hard that it caused piston / conrod damage it'd be a bit more of a mare to fix.

My gut feeling is that it probably wouldn't and that spinning the engine with the plug removed would probably see it exit the plug hole at high speed before any damage is done, but you never know.

Kevin
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #28 on: 13 August 2008, 08:51:52 »

Voted - burn the b*gger - 2 be safe turn engine over by hand a couple of revs first.
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Re: What shall I do about small bit of rubber in Bore
« Reply #29 on: 14 August 2008, 17:06:16 »

A late reply I know, just seen the post. Get a length of screenwash tube, tape it in the end of a decent vacuum cleaner ( aka a HOOVER ), try and fish it out with that, its worked for me in the past. Use clear tube if possible and you will see if any small bits are removed, bigger bits should stay on the end if you are lucky.
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