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Doctor Gollum

But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?
Onanists always think outside the box.

STEMO

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?
Someone earning £40K+ can't see anything wrong in that. Someone earning <£40K can.

Andy B

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?

cos child benefit is a benefit in name only

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: STEMO on 22 November 2019, 19:19:32
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?
Someone earning £40K+ can't see anything wrong in that. Someone earning <£40K can.
I don't earn anything like £40k, and have never claimed for anything.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:26:01
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?

cos child benefit is a benefit in name only
So why the entitled outrage? Should we have a Vigil?  ::)
Onanists always think outside the box.

STEMO

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:26:31
Quote from: STEMO on 22 November 2019, 19:19:32
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?
Someone earning £40K+ can't see anything wrong in that. Someone earning <£40K can.
I don't earn anything like £40k, and have never claimed for anything.
Ah.....but you're not entitled  ::)

Migv6 le Frog Fan

Quote from: Eboy.com on 22 November 2019, 17:50:18
Quote from: STEMO on 22 November 2019, 16:44:32
Quote from: tunnie on 22 November 2019, 16:40:46
What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
That's how we lost our child benefit in 2015. One earner over £50K, no CB. Two earners with £45K each can have it.
I think child benefit should be something for only those in deep trouble, and then, like all handouts, for a short period of time.

Live everything else in life, if a couple cant afford kids, don't have them.  Winners all round.

Couldn't agree more. Family allowance originated at a time when the husband usually held the purse strings and might go out on the lash with his wages on Friday night and leave the wife and kids with no money for food. The wife at least had her family allowance to put some grub on the table.
Now its just part of the client state, where they buy votes by chucking other peoples money at people who feel entitled to receive it. Personal dignity and self reliance are alien concepts in parts of our society today, and that cant end in a good place.
Its weird being the same age as old people !

STEMO

Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:26:01
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?

cos child benefit is a benefit in name only
Yeah, it used to be a tax rebate for having kids instead of a benefit for having kids.

Andy B

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:27:22
Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:26:01
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?

cos child benefit is a benefit in name only
So why the entitled outrage? Should we have a Vigil?  ::)
who's enraged?  ???

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:55:12
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:27:22
Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:26:01
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?

cos child benefit is a benefit in name only
So why the entitled outrage? Should we have a Vigil?  ::)
who's enraged?  ???
Not you, I was generalising about the entitled hoards ;)
Onanists always think outside the box.

Andy B

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 20:01:20
Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:55:12
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:27:22
Quote from: Andy B on 22 November 2019, 19:26:01
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 22 November 2019, 19:17:53
But why is someone earning £40k entitled to any benefits in the first place? And why should they be?

cos child benefit is a benefit in name only
So why the entitled outrage? Should we have a Vigil?  ::)
who's enraged?  ???
Not you, I was generalising about the entitled hoards ;)
:y :y

STEMO

This is another one I don't agree with: Just got a letter from the DWP informing me that my £200 winter fuel allowance will be in the bank before Christmas. I'd forgotten all about it, because I don't need it, and neither do at least half of pensioners, I'll wager.
Just the cost of sending the millions of letters out must cost a small fortune. I'm sure that money could be put to better use.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: STEMO on 23 November 2019, 14:34:17
This is another one I don't agree with: Just got a letter from the DWP informing me that my £200 winter fuel allowance will be in the bank before Christmas. I'd forgotten all about it, because I don't need it, and neither do at least half of pensioners, I'll wager.
Just the cost of sending the millions of letters out must cost a small fortune. I'm sure that money could be put to better use.


Yep...absolutely correct.

I'm quite happy for ' hard up heat or eat coffin dodgers' to get this money, but as you so rightly say there are a shit load of wealthy pensioners out there who should not get this benefit.


Field Marshal Dr. Opti

.......or free prescriptions

........or free eye tests

..........or free travel


.........or a free TV licence

Benefits should be based on need not just because you have reached a certain age.

Varche

I think I read that means testing would cost more than the money saved.

Anyway it is a Tory vote winner. Keep the aged sweet
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