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Re: Top 5%
« Reply #15 on: 22 November 2019, 17:16:18 »

I hate the f*ucking taxman. He makes me pay tax on money I don't earn. I have spoken with them about this but they are far from friendly.....aggressive even. :-\

Big companies pay very little in tax. Amazon being an example who is above the law.
Unearned income attracts a very high level of tax. Few people know that tax is paid on profits from house sales, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: 22 November 2019, 17:21:07 »

Gave up worrying about paying tax ages ago, what annoys me more is people who shy away from work & receive benefits from decent people who work & pay tax, as for earning £80,000 Prison Governor another possibility.
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« Reply #17 on: 22 November 2019, 17:22:58 »

Gave up worrying about paying tax ages ago, what annoys me more is people who shy away from work & receive benefits from decent people who work & pay tax.
At least you're being paid to baby sit them, so you can appreciate the value for money...
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Re: Top 5%
« Reply #18 on: 22 November 2019, 17:48:01 »

What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
Yes, I fully agree with that.

Obviously with a good accountant, there are ways around that by daddy paying mummy to be a child carer, which has the benefit of keeping mummys NI contributions up, so she isn't a frain on society later, but it depends on exploiting certain loopholes around expenses.
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« Reply #19 on: 22 November 2019, 17:50:18 »

What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
That's how we lost our child benefit in 2015. One earner over £50K, no CB. Two earners with £45K each can have it.
I think child benefit should be something for only those in deep trouble, and then, like all handouts, for a short period of time.

Live everything else in life, if a couple cant afford kids, don't have them.  Winners all round.
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« Reply #20 on: 22 November 2019, 18:32:19 »

What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
That's how we lost our child benefit in 2015. One earner over £50K, no CB. Two earners with £45K each can have it.

That was unbelievable the way they did that with Child Benefit
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« Reply #21 on: 22 November 2019, 18:33:08 »

What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
That's how we lost our child benefit in 2015. One earner over £50K, no CB. Two earners with £45K each can have it.
I think child benefit should be something for only those in deep trouble, and then, like all handouts, for a short period of time.

Live everything else in life, if a couple cant afford kids, don't have them.  Winners all round.

I think you will find that they would say it is their right.  You pay for them to have children.
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Re: Top 5%
« Reply #22 on: 22 November 2019, 18:40:32 »

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I think child benefit should be something for only those in deep trouble, and then, like all handouts, for a short period of time.

Live everything else in life, if a couple cant afford kids, don't have them.  Winners all round.

Child benefit replaced a tax benefit that used to be given to the dad but changed so that mum got it instead
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« Reply #23 on: 22 November 2019, 18:51:48 »

What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
That's how we lost our child benefit in 2015. One earner over £50K, no CB. Two earners with £45K each can have it.
I think child benefit should be something for only those in deep trouble, and then, like all handouts, for a short period of time.

Live everything else in life, if a couple cant afford kids, don't have them.  Winners all round.
That's a fair point... Why would a household with an £80k income require benefits? Or be entitled to them...  ???
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« Reply #24 on: 22 November 2019, 18:53:54 »

What bugs me is you could have a mum earning £40k and a Dad Earning £40k for a family bringing in £80k combined and that's fine.  ???

Yet have Dad earning £80k and Mum being full time mummy and not working, this is not ok and "punish the rich"  >:(
That's how we lost our child benefit in 2015. One earner over £50K, no CB. Two earners with £45K each can have it.
I think child benefit should be something for only those in deep trouble, and then, like all handouts, for a short period of time.

Live everything else in life, if a couple cant afford kids, don't have them.  Winners all round.
That's a fair point... Why would a household with an £80k income require benefits? Or be entitled to them...  ???
They're not.
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Re: Top 5%
« Reply #25 on: 22 November 2019, 19:04:39 »

That's alright then ;)
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« Reply #26 on: 22 November 2019, 19:05:31 »

That's alright then ;)
No it's not, we're entitled  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: 22 November 2019, 19:10:49 »

That's alright then ;)
No it's not, we're entitled  ;D
You can be as entitled as you like, it won't help any :D
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Re: Top 5%
« Reply #28 on: 22 November 2019, 19:15:28 »

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They're not.

if the household has an income of £80k split equally between mum & dad, then they are entitled to CB. But if one earns £50 they're not
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« Reply #29 on: 22 November 2019, 19:17:44 »

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They're not.

if the household has an income of £80k split equally between mum & dad, then they are entitled to CB. But if one earns £50 they're not
Of course, I went completely off kilter there........again.  ;D

No wonder with you lot being frivolous and messing about all the time.
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