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Wills storage/register
« on: 04 February 2020, 20:15:36 »

We have a family conundrum.

An aunt recently died in Scotland with a will. The solicitor can find no record though of her deceased husbands will from when he died back in 1990. That raises a number of issues.

My question is.... if he had a will in England made prior to moving to Scotland, would that be stored or registered anywhere. ?  If so where?

Google hasn’t been very helpful for once.  My suspicion is yes if a solicitor drew it up and stored the will. However if it was A DIY job or individual held the will maybe not.

Anyone know how it works in England please?
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Re: Wills storage/register
« Reply #1 on: 04 February 2020, 21:12:19 »

A copy of his will should have been sent to the Probate Office when he died and his estate was wound up, even if it was a simple will...  Wills become part of the public domain and should be "searchable" on-line

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

I would contact the Probate Office if this method doesn't work as they are the experts .. not me !!

All I know is the 5 wills I have dealt with have all been sent in and registered in order to obtain "Letters of Probate" to execute the estates
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« Reply #2 on: 04 February 2020, 22:39:44 »

I was hoping you might reply from your previous experience.

We suspect that probate might never have been done. To change stuff into your name  can be achieved with the death certificate we suspect even if their is a will . Electric bill for example. Same surname and address.

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Re: Wills storage/register
« Reply #3 on: 04 February 2020, 23:52:54 »

Even if Probate was not applied for, there is a chance that "Letters of Administration" had to be issued .. also done by the Probate Office .. these are issued when there is no will registered, but a financial organisation wants proof that they can issue monies held ....

As an example of this .. when my Dad died (over 45 years ago) it was not a surprise .. he/we knew it was happening.. he went through everything and transferred it to Mums name, bank accounts, house rental, rates (in those days), gas accounts, leccy accounts, sold the car (he couldn't drive at the end anyway) etc etc etc .. right down to pre-allocating widows pension rights .... he was VERY particular and thorough ... but deliberately left no will as he had "done" everything and there was nowt else to do .......

After he passed I set forth doing all the bits as required and following his instructions, and everything went exactly as he had said ..... until ....  his work conatcted me ... he was due "superannuation payments" he knew nothing (or had forgotton) about ... the only way of getting that money to Mum legally was to get "Letters of Administration" in lieu of Probate....  took about 6 weeks in all.... once I learned what they were and how to get them !!

I wasn't sure if copies of those letters are kept like copies of probate are .. so "google being my friend" I did some searching .....  and found this information which may be of help to you .. something I was not aware of ... there is also a bit about Scotland that may be relevant...

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/wills-or-administrations-after-1858/

"The Principal Probate Registry was established on 12 January 1858 and keeps a copy of every will proved in England or Wales after 1858, as well as copies of letters of administration.

An application for administration could be made when a person died without leaving a will."


Don't know if that is of any use .. but good luck !!
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Re: Wills storage/register
« Reply #4 on: 05 February 2020, 00:24:08 »

My dad died as a Scottish resident with an English will.

The will had to go to the Scottish solicitor to be validated before anything else happened. Took over a year to sort out.

Scottish law is applied to it regardless of where the will was registered.
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