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Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« on: 07 February 2020, 12:49:08 »

The Beta reg check is on-line to check if you need to pay fees (Brum/Leeds)
I heard the Birmingham zone becomes live this summer

https://www.gov.uk/check-clean-air-zone-charge

My 53 plate 2.6 V6 is Omega is chargeable for Brum 8
the astra petrol 1.6 cars are chargeable for brum 8
the astra diesel tractors  are chargeable for brum 8
no charge for Leeds YET

obviously the above checker has been tweaked from the london ULEZ checker
 (new link ,the transport for London link is changed)

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/check-your-vehicle-35896

My 53 plate 2.6 V6 is Omega is NOT chargeable 
the petrol astra 1.6 cars are not chargeable
the diesel astra tractors are chargeable 12.50

just some examples of the family fleet
obviously ,if your unlucky enough to have to visit Brum,Leeds or London then check  ;D :D

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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #1 on: 07 February 2020, 12:56:18 »

According to a friend who has to use it, the DVLA database isn't very reliable but is so badly organised searching it requires a lot of lateral thinking.
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #2 on: 07 February 2020, 13:16:04 »

I can see a load more cars driving round on cloned plates in Brum

there's probably loads already  ::)
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #3 on: 07 February 2020, 13:32:20 »

My 53 plate 2.6 V6 is Omega is chargeable for Brum 8
the astra petrol 1.6 cars are chargeable for brum 8
the astra diesel tractors  are chargeable for brum 8
no charge for Leeds YET

My RRS is chargeable for Brum but not Leeds.
The 4.8L V8 BMW is not chargeable for either, neither is the 2007 Cooper S (both petrol)

Same for London, but I can't imagine driving into the ULEZ..
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #4 on: 07 February 2020, 19:43:35 »

Pah,,, this is costing haulage companies, thousands. Anything euro5 or less, no go. Got to go euro6+. New euro 6 truck 80k. We've got 63reg that will soon not be allowed into these, money making zones., It hasn't had a big impact yet on s/h values, but when it kicks off, they will plummet. Any thing with forigen plates is exempt.
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #5 on: 07 February 2020, 20:14:25 »

There's no charge for my car in Birmingham or leeds either.
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #6 on: 07 February 2020, 20:33:15 »

I ran some more of our reg plates through the checker for Brum

one 54 plate (12 January 2005 registered) astra H 1.6 z16xep engine  is euro 4 but gets charged 8
one 57 plate ( 30 April 2007 registered)     astra H 1.6 z16xep engine is euro 4 but won't get charged

mechanically they are the same  ::)

so the checker is pants
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #7 on: 08 February 2020, 10:41:42 »

Pah,,, this is costing haulage companies, thousands. Anything euro5 or less, no go. Got to go euro6+. New euro 6 truck 80k. We've got 63reg that will soon not be allowed into these, money making zones., It hasn't had a big impact yet on s/h values, but when it kicks off, they will plummet. Any thing with forigen plates is exempt.


when the LEZ started, a friend in Faversham looked at his fleet of mostly non-compliant refrigerated vehicles, did a few calculations, remembered he was over 60, and wound up the business. The trucks lost a large chunk of their value in the southeast, so he had to sell them much further north than was convenient.


The recovery company I worked for had to be careful which light vehicles we used inside the M25, and could no longer do any heavy jobs inside the LEZ.
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #8 on: 08 February 2020, 12:37:25 »

All mine are 8 for brum, nought for leeds.  Not that it matters, seeing as I don't want to go to either (although rumour has it that central brum may be my new place of work, which will then likely be the day I leave ;)).
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #9 on: 08 February 2020, 12:38:06 »

I do have a handful of servers to collect from central brum.  Best I do it in the next 3 or 4 months ;D
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #10 on: 10 February 2020, 08:40:12 »

I feel sorry for the people who live in the zone, only exempt for two years.

I notice that a number of car dealerships premises are now empty.

To visit my wifes elderly brother we are going to have to make a 15 mile detour, probably going to take over an hour instead of 20 minutes.

We could always take the bus I suppose, and sit with the great unwashed, 3 buses probably 2.1/2 hours.
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #11 on: 10 February 2020, 16:20:54 »

I feel sorry for the people who live in the zone, only exempt for two years.

I notice that a number of car dealerships premises are now empty.

To visit my wifes elderly brother we are going to have to make a 15 mile detour, probably going to take over an hour instead of 20 minutes.

We could always take the bus I suppose, and sit with the great unwashed, 3 buses probably 2.1/2 hours.
Oh, the joy. ;D
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #12 on: 10 February 2020, 18:34:05 »

My Volvo V90 is ok for both probably due to the Adblue system - which I have just had to top up for first time.
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #13 on: 10 February 2020, 21:38:02 »

I have a car that runs on LPG. For some reason I can go to London with no charge but it's 8 for Birmingham.... Something dodgy going on because the advice was if it is okay in London then it will be okay in Birmingham..... suddenly the goal posts have been moved!
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Re: Birmingham Leeds clean air zone charge PLUS London
« Reply #14 on: 10 February 2020, 22:03:24 »

I have a car that runs on LPG. For some reason I can go to London with no charge but it's 8 for Birmingham.... Something dodgy going on because the advice was if it is okay in London then it will be okay in Birmingham..... suddenly the goal posts have been moved!


it's to make HS2 look less of a oppsup
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