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[ret38]

Hi dear Omega Owner Forum members, I bought my second omega an upgrade from B to BFL. It is 2000 Elegance 2.5. I've bought a couple of original parts to replace and one of them is a pair of NCDC2015.

So my question is, I've a CCRT 2008 and screen installed on my Omega originally. I've bought a NCDC 2015 and a CID from a car.
I don't have the radio code but the seller told me If I use them together on the same car radio code won't be necessary. Do you know if it is true? Or how could I get the code?(PS. The donor car is crashed therefore don't know the VIN to ask to Opel=
Second Question is, Do I need additional wiring to the NCDC 2015 and to the CID screen for the upgrade? Or are they just plug in and out replacement for old system?
I own an "My Naff Code Reader" and can find Tech2 to use if they are necessary. Also if I need additional wiring can I made them in home or within a shop. Opel Service doesn't know about the wiring and I mailed to Opel Germany and they didn' reply either.
Thanks for the patience

[Doctor Gollum]

That is correct, a matched pair of screen and NCDC should work without issue.

Most of the loom is present, but may need modification between head unit and screen/ additional loom.

If you can find someone breaking an Elite spec car, this should have all the extra bits you'll need. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

And if the NCDC unit is Bose enabled you will need the Bose amp, speakers and loom to go with them.

[ret38]

Thanks you for the answers . I couldn't find any scheme for the necessary wiring. Do you guys know where to find them? I have a good electrician nearby for necessary modifications to the existing wiring but he will need correct diagrams I guess. Also I already have Bose system installed in my car originally, do they need any activation or sth like that?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

In that case you may already have the correct wiring taped up near to where you want it. I would pull out your current head unit and info screen and take a look before going any further.
When I changed my mono ncdc 2013 for a colour screen version, the extra plug I needed was taped to the loom a few centimetres away.

[ret38]

Wow that would be really good I wish I had that too.

[TheBoy]

As its a NCDC2015, you need to go through the pain of fitted the telematics unit, as that will be in the pairing ring, though for the life of me cant remember if a missing telematics will cause constant warnings on the CID.

The wiring *WILL NOT* be in place if the car was factory fitted with a non NCDC unit.  Fortunately, it can all be modified simply by swapping some wires on a 36-36 way TrafficMaster loom, and adding the extra plug for the CID.  At the display end, from memory, pinds 1 and 36 need shorting in order to get diags to work, but check schematics to confirm.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I changed from NCDC 2013 with mono screen to NCDC 2015 with colour screen. Telematics unit didn't come with the 2015, but I don't get any messages on screen about it.

[TheBoy]

I changed from NCDC 2013 with mono screen to NCDC 2015 with colour screen. Telematics unit didn't come with the 2015, but I don't get any messages on screen about it.

Did we program out the telematics on yours?  You can tell be pressing the Phone Dial/Hangup buttoms, they do something like Route and Info on a 2013 IIRC (if you program out th etelematics, the 2015 becomes a 2013, there are no hardware differences apart from the printed legends on a couple of the buttons)

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Not that Im aware. As far as I can recall, it was programmed for 2.2 diesel engine which made all the figures haywire, so you cast a spell on it so it know it now resides in a 3.2.

[VXL V6]

I changed from NCDC 2013 with mono screen to NCDC 2015 with colour screen. Telematics unit didn't come with the 2015, but I don't get any messages on screen about it.

Did we program out the telematics on yours?  You can tell be pressing the Phone Dial/Hangup buttoms, they do something like Route and Info on a 2013 IIRC (if you program out th etelematics, the 2015 becomes a 2013, there are no hardware differences apart from the printed legends on a couple of the buttons)

I thought if there was no Telematics on the CANbus and Tech II has told the 2015 it doesn't exist then the HU automatically reverted to become a 2013. I know that in 2015 mode (ie with Telematics) the software works slightly differently for Traffic messages and the green and red buttons.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Don't think the green / red buttons do anything on mine. Not sure that enlightens anyone further, but you never know...

[VXL V6]

In 2013 mode, the green button should select Home address and the Red button selects alternate route on the Nav.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Didn't know that. Will give it a try and report back.

[TheBoy]

I changed from NCDC 2013 with mono screen to NCDC 2015 with colour screen. Telematics unit didn't come with the 2015, but I don't get any messages on screen about it.

Did we program out the telematics on yours?  You can tell be pressing the Phone Dial/Hangup buttoms, they do something like Route and Info on a 2013 IIRC (if you program out th etelematics, the 2015 becomes a 2013, there are no hardware differences apart from the printed legends on a couple of the buttons)

I thought if there was no Telematics on the CANbus and Tech II has told the 2015 it doesn't exist then the HU automatically reverted to become a 2013. I know that in 2015 mode (ie with Telematics) the software works slightly differently for Traffic messages and the green and red buttons.

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