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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #15 on: 02 May 2020, 18:42:05 »

A car shampoo thread for the oldies.....ahhhhhh.  ;D

Until I joined this forum I'd never heard of rubbing clay onto your car.   :-\

WTF I thought!  ;D

Yep.....bucket .......car shampoo........hose.......beer. :y
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #16 on: 02 May 2020, 19:08:59 »

Collinite 476 is also one of my favourites, a proper old fashioned paste wax.

I use this as a finisher/beading top coat after polishing on the other cars. Been about for years but still very good.  :y  Not exactly cheap but the tub will last a lifetime.  :y

Which one would that be then, have a couple?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=collinite+476s+super+double+coat+auto+wax&crid=2GHICOQICYGW9&sprefix=collinite+476%2Caps%2C146&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_13

Any of the old fashioned looking red and white tons, as lomg as its collinite 476 it's right. The bigger tin is better value.

Carplan much easier to apply mind, 476 has a very short time between "perfect buff off" and "neighbours will hear me practicing my swearing". :y
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #17 on: 02 May 2020, 19:10:40 »

Pah Clay bar... Just wash it a couple of times with Fairy liquid, that removes old polish, wax, grime etc,, then dry with new microfiber cloth, rinsed in filtered rain water, then polish.. :y
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #18 on: 02 May 2020, 19:17:37 »

Pah Clay bar... Just wash it a couple of times with Fairy liquid, that removes old polish, wax, grime etc,, then dry with new microfiber cloth, rinsed in filtered rain water, then polish.. :y
I do this  :)
washing up liquid ,rinse, dry off, mop or T-cut any scratches etc, rinse and dry again, then plenty of polish x 2

obviously not "fairy Liquid" ,i'm poor too tight  ;D
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #19 on: 02 May 2020, 19:28:27 »

Pah Clay bar... Just wash it a couple of times with Fairy liquid, that removes old polish, wax, grime etc,, then dry with new microfiber cloth, rinsed in filtered rain water, then polish.. :y
I do this  :)
washing up liquid ,rinse, dry off, mop or T-cut any scratches etc, rinse and dry again, then plenty of polish x 2

obviously not "fairy Liquid" ,i'm poor too tight  ;D


 Or take it to work, dose it with TFR, blast it off, Microfiber dry, then polish with minute wax spray polish.
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #20 on: 02 May 2020, 20:52:12 »

Collinite 476 is also one of my favourites, a proper old fashioned paste wax.

I use this as a finisher/beading top coat after polishing on the other cars. Been about for years but still very good.  :y  Not exactly cheap but the tub will last a lifetime.  :y

Which one would that be then, have a couple?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=collinite+476s+super+double+coat+auto+wax&crid=2GHICOQICYGW9&sprefix=collinite+476%2Caps%2C146&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_13

Just been out to the garage and mine is 476S. It's in a gold tin (not plastic) and although I've had it for years it's barely touched the amount in there as I put it on with a round sponge applicator. It is not a polish as such but more of a coating to enhance the polish that that you've already put on there.  :y  Beading properties are pretty good after this has been applied.
As said before, my son used to do full on detailing and dent repair as his day job and it's bloody hard work. Paint prep, clay bar, working out high spots, low spots, removing swirls, and that's before you even get to the polishing stage. His results were fantastic though as he's a perfectionist.
Realistically though, the average person can't dedicate this amount of time for a super shiny car, so they wash it, dry it and are happy with that.  :y
As with all of them, the elbow work needs doing first to get the shine. If you have access to a proper variable speed machine polisher, a proper going over with Autoglym Super Resin followed by collinite is plenty good enough for most folks.  :y
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #21 on: 02 May 2020, 21:46:38 »

Collinite is a pure wax. Polish is the abrasive part (as you quite rightly say, SRP is a winner). Once the paint is nice and shiny (and as free of swirls as you can be bothered to get it), then wax over the top to keep that shine locked in.

476bis quite solvent heavy though, which will remove some of the fillers that SRP leaves behind. If you're after a truly concours finish (which is far too much effort for me), then a pure polish such as Menzerna's range is ideal. I then use a pre-wax prep such as StrippedEase before slapping the wax or sealant on. :y
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #22 on: 02 May 2020, 22:06:44 »

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If you're after a truly concours finish (which is far too much effort for me), then a pure polish such as Menzerna's range is ideal......

 :y
We use Achilles Prep to de-swirl and as a filler prep, then Menzerna polish, followed by top coat or an additional polish and then top coat, being Collinite in our case.  :y
Mike will wish he'd never asked.  ;D 
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #23 on: 02 May 2020, 22:19:54 »

We legitimately have one of those big plastic outdoor boxes full of detailing kit. About 4ft long and 2ft square... MrsGK makes me look like an amateur.

She won a trophy at a Merc concours a couple of years ago, to give you an idea...!
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #24 on: 02 May 2020, 22:28:53 »

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She won a trophy at a Merc concours a couple of years ago, to give you an idea...!

Good work.  :y

I have the occasional mad few hours at it but generally life doesn't leave me enough free time ..... or inclination.  ;D
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #25 on: 02 May 2020, 22:29:58 »

We legitimately have one of those big plastic outdoor boxes full of detailing kit. About 4ft long and 2ft square... MrsGK makes me look like an amateur.

She won a trophy at a Merc concours a couple of years ago, to give you an idea...!


So how does she fancy doing an audi allroad then ..... it needs a good seeing to !!
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #26 on: 03 May 2020, 00:29:13 »

I think we could do with a detailing explanation thread. What to do and in which order to do it, with recommended products etc.
I find it all a bit confusing tbh.
So if one of you experienced / expert types has time on your hands to do it, it would be appreciated.
Im currently, slowly touching up chips on the paintwork and a couple of small areas of lacquer which have been burnt off by acidic bird shite. After that there will be the scratches and swirls to take care off. Then the nice shiny glossy finish I want to achieve.
Not really completely sure how to get there though tbh.
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #27 on: 03 May 2020, 06:41:46 »

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If you're after a truly concours finish (which is far too much effort for me), then a pure polish such as Menzerna's range is ideal......

 :y
We use Achilles Prep to de-swirl and as a filler prep, then Menzerna polish, followed by top coat or an additional polish and then top coat, being Collinite in our case.  :y
Mike will wish he'd never asked.  ;D

Yeah thanks for all the feedback, I have quite a lot of car cleaning crap, some doubled up, having just sorted the new shed out and sorting car stuff and tools. So my plan is to clay bar as usual, that's where I usually leave it, just a quick polish then, but I am going to apply, Meguiars ultimate liquid wax, and I do have a variable speed polisher, just bought it week or so ago, as for waxing thereafter applying the Meguiars, still required as an option I assume, have a tin of Sonax extreme wax in the shed never been used, had it for quite a few years, so would use that rather than spend more money, need to start using all that car cleaning stuff I have in the shed, loads of it, too much!!
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #28 on: 03 May 2020, 08:50:30 »

I've got The Tigra Of Cool to do a full detail on, its currently under 3 inches of leaves and bird droppings. I'll take photos and do a writeup of detailing if people want.

No point doing the MV6 until it's painted, and the ex plod is already clean...
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Re: Car Polish - Wax or Ceramic?
« Reply #29 on: 03 May 2020, 09:23:56 »

I've got The Tigra Of Cool to do a full detail on, its currently under 3 inches of leaves and bird droppings. I'll take photos and do a writeup of detailing if people want.

No point doing the MV6 until it's painted, and the ex plod is already clean...

That that would be really helpful, when can you post the writeup, assume your not to busy at the moment!!
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