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[VXL V6]

Check CAN connections, if OK when does message appear? When on tuner, CD autochanger or Nav?

[tango]

As soon as ignition is turned on
It’ll display footbrake message so I clear that by pressing brake
Then it’ll show washer fluid low , I can clear that with the button on the stereo

Now here’s the issue
When I turn ignition on
It doesn’t turn the radio on I have to turn it on manually from power button
If i do this straight after Turing the ignition on , I can use the stereo
I get about 30 seconds before display safe is displayed
I can pretty much do any function , radio cd or cdc but once display safe is displayed then I’m pretty much blind operating
I can’t test nav as i don’t have a nav disc but a music disc plays in that slot

When I turn ignition off radio stays on
Until I switch it off manually

So there’s no ignition control on the stereo
I’ve checked the ignition live feed to the stereo ( thin red wire ) and that shows 12v when key is turned so that’s working


I’ve tried checking all wires for broken or incorrect but a bit lost now

[VXL V6]

Re the power issue, check the Mode Retainment setting.

[tango]

How do I do this lol

[VXL V6]

From tuner, it's one of the options from memory.

[TheBoy]

Display Safe is generally the display isn't paired to the radio,  If the display changes between Nav/BC/Tuner/CDC etc, then CAN is working, so likely a pairing problem.  If it doesn't, CAN wiring issue

Ignore Vectra-C forums, their displays aren't the same as Omega/Astra-G ones.

[tango]

Who can pair this for me
I’m willing to travel within the midlands
And what sort of cost am I looking at

[tigers_gonads]

I have a non Bose NCDC 2013 sat here with a matching colour screen.
The cd cartridge doesn't want to eject and the flap fell off years ago but other then looking a little rough, it works well.
I know these are a easy ish fix if you don't mind tinkering for a hour.

If your interested, PM me.
Its only sat around gathering dust so it will be very reasonably priced   

[tango]

Pm sent so that I can weigh my options on this
Tbh I would rather have it coded
As both the cd changer and Nav section cd are working
Plus it’s bosed
So just waiting to see how much it’ll cost

[TheBoy]

Your trouble is, I believe you don't have the pairing codes, or can even guarantee that both items were ever paired.

Whilst I can discover the pairing code of the headunit, if the screen has a different pairing code, you're knackered.


To get an idea of what I charge, see https://theboy.omegaowners.com/tech2/prices.shtml although I'm too far south to assist you.

[tango]

They both came out the same car
However I don’t know the history of the car they came out of
Nor did the owner have any pass code or paperwork for the car key was breaking
I guess your right because I don’t know the history it might not be paired at all
But when I removed the unit and screen it didn’t look like they had been tampered with before.
This is turning out to be a Costly Experiment

[TheBoy]

This is turning out to be a Costly Experiment

The stuff is much, much cheaper now, but when I was trying to crack these, I must have spent thousands on these. Mind you, I had loads of them, including a dozen or so that I had in the garage when that blew up.

I've given all my NCDC's and displays away now, except one spare set that I keep as a spare for my own Omega.


I probably know more about these units than is healthy .

I'm secretly hoping that your NCDC201x has lost its programming (which happens sometimes), and thus the message you are getting.  If that is the case, I know I can recover it (assuming no other faults).  But if the display has a different pairing code to the headunit, I can't.  My doubts are coming in because an unpaired NCDC normally gives Radio Safe, not just Display Safe.

Hope that's clear-ish.  There are a lot of combinations all giving similar messages, making remote diags inconclusive.

[tango]

Whilst installing it
And trying to get the wires in the right order ( wich I think I’ve finally got )
I did get the message radio safe uswell
I still have two spare wires
(Rev) this is for the revers I believe and doesn’t have to be connected
The second is (ter) white wire I’ve also left this out as it wouldn’t do anything when connected
I did originally link this to canh wich is also white
But it didn’t do anything
The issue I have is this
1. The ignition key has no control over the stereo ( it won’t turn it off or on )
2. If I leave the ignition key off and disconnect the canh and canl wires and then reconnect them
The stereo is fully operational and won’t go into safe mode
I can then eve I turn the ignition on and start the car
Stereo will continue to work
The moment I turn the stereo of and back on again that’s when it showes display safe after about 25 seconds and then it’ll Keep doing that until I disconnect canh and canl again and then reconnect
Maybe me messing around with it whilst wiring it up has caused a issue

[neil74]

Did you take TG up on his offer of the non bose NCDC2013 ?. and if not could I buy it TG because i'm sick of seeing a big hole in the dash where my broken one used to sit.

[tango]

Yes I have sent him a pm letting him know I want it