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[STEMO]

Apart from that, they're no more than glorified dragsters. You can't actually take them anywhere other than a track.

[TheBoy]

Cars are tools for doing jobs for most people

You try saying that on the Shaguar forums, you'll be banned.  In their eyes, cars are something to be washed, polished, detailed and photographed every weekend.

Boy, did I get a kicking for suggesting it was a tool...

[STEMO]

Cars are tools for doing jobs for most people

You try saying that on the Shaguar forums, you'll be banned.  In their eyes, cars are something to be washed, polished, detailed and photographed every weekend.

Boy, did I get a kicking for suggesting it was a tool...

I've really noticed the amount of them on the road nowadays. BMWs and Mercs used to be rare headturners, then they were everywhere. Same thing seems to be happening to jags now. I also never realised how long these particular models had been out. Saw a 10 plate Xr the other day, looked a bit dated.

[Nick W]

An electric car is no more than a household appliance.

that's what most car owners think of any car. It's the 'enthusiasts' who are wrong.

Correctamundo, Nick. Cars are tools for doing jobs for most people. Most enthusiasts cars spend their time parked in the garage/on the drive.

yup, right tool for the job. I've no objection to cars as toys, and there can be a decent overlap. But lets be honest about them.


As for flat engines, I've never heard one that sounded 'right' to me. Best to worst: straight six, rorty four, proper 60° V6, V8. Jaguar got V12s right, they're for smoothness, quiet and all round refinement

[Nick W]

Cars are tools for doing jobs for most people

You try saying that on the Shaguar forums, you'll be banned.  In their eyes, cars are something to be washed, polished, detailed and photographed every weekend.

Boy, did I get a kicking for suggesting it was a tool...

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

[Viral_Jim]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

[STEMO]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

It was you that needed the character to own one of those.

[Nick W]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

not to mention ugly, expensive, pointless, etc etc. None of which matter if they describe toys, and there are other toys which beat cars in those areas: boats, horses, aeroplanes to name 3.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

So back in the seventies BL produced motor cars dripping with charm and character.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

not to mention ugly, expensive, pointless, etc etc. None of which matter if they describe toys, and there are other toys which beat cars in those areas: boats, horses, aeroplanes to name 3.

........blow up sex dolls are becoming more 'life like'

These could be classed as a toy.

[Nick W]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

So back in the seventies BL produced motor cars dripping with charm and character.

forty years of nostalgia and a pair of prescription rose-tinted spectacles help. The same things that make Muiras, Astons, E-types etc seem better than the glamorous disposable junk they were in period

[STEMO]

it's even more accurate for Alfas and Lancias

I think many people use the word character when they mean at least one of: "badly made", "uncomfortable", "poorly designed", "unreliable".

not to mention ugly, expensive, pointless, etc etc. None of which matter if they describe toys, and there are other toys which beat cars in those areas: boats, horses, aeroplanes to name 3.

........blow up sex dolls are becoming more 'life like'

These could be classed as a toy.

Ah......at last something that I'll admit you have superior knowledge of

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

He does seem to know a lot about them.