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[STEMO]

We don't have race relations in Barnsley.

[Doctor Gollum]

If them Police in America had turned a blind eye to the drink/drug driver asleep at the wheel, and he wiped out 5 innocent pedestrians (of any race)on his drive home , I doubt very much it would make news in the UK

My take on it ....
don't break the law ,
if you break the law ,expect to be arrested and thrown i a cell
expect to appear in court and be jailed or fined 
if you resist arrest and run off ,expect to be tasered or shot 
that applies what ever race,religion or sexuality you decide you are
the world has gone soft ,rules are there for a reason 

Drunk in charge, and he was asleep, and parked. In a parking space.

Resisting and then grabbing a taser turned a misdemeanor into death.

It takes me a while to wake up properly, so I sympathise with the disorientation that may have made the bloke react poorly, but they gave him the opportunity to walk home. He declined and started being an arse... Escalation was inevitable.

[dave the builder]

Drunk in charge, and he was asleep, and parked. In a parking space.

if he was such a good family man then surely Celebrating a family birthday is best done with the actual family.
 at home and not drinking to the extent you fall asleep (at the wheel of a car )

[Doctor Gollum]

Like I said not the best choice, but better than driving home

[TheBoy]

Would it be politically incorrect to black up before I go out on the rob? 

Just wear a "Black lives matter" T shirt

The implication of that is that brown lives don't matter. Nor yellow lives. Or white lives. So that itself is racist and divisive, thus illegal.


*ALL* lives matter*, irrespective of creed or colour. End of.



*worthwhile lives.  Scum and wasters should be culled as early in life as possible.

[dave the builder]

Would it be politically incorrect to black up before I go out on the rob? 

Just wear a "Black lives matter" T shirt

The implication of that is that brown lives don't matter. Nor yellow lives. Or white lives. So that itself is racist and divisive, thus illegal.

*ALL* lives matter*, irrespective of creed or colour. End of.

I made that point on another thread , so not guilty your honour
If BLM wish to hold up the race card, it should not just be about "black" inequality
I have friends of many "colours" 

[STEMO]

Would it be politically incorrect to black up before I go out on the rob? 

Just wear a "Black lives matter" T shirt

The implication of that is that brown lives don't matter. Nor yellow lives. Or white lives. So that itself is racist and divisive, thus illegal.

*ALL* lives matter*, irrespective of creed or colour. End of.

I made that point on another thread , so not guilty your honour
If BLM wish to hold up the race card, it should not just be about "black" inequality
I have friends of many "colours" 

Any green ones?

[dave the builder]

Would it be politically incorrect to black up before I go out on the rob? 

Just wear a "Black lives matter" T shirt

The implication of that is that brown lives don't matter. Nor yellow lives. Or white lives. So that itself is racist and divisive, thus illegal.

*ALL* lives matter*, irrespective of creed or colour. End of.

I made that point on another thread , so not guilty your honour
If BLM wish to hold up the race card, it should not just be about "black" inequality
I have friends of many "colours" 

Any green ones?

I know a few bicyclist ,tree hungers who can't afford to eat meat 

from the internet.....

"Black is the absence of light. ... Some consider white to be a color, because white light comprises all hues on the visible light spectrum. And many do consider black to be a color, because you combine other pigments to create it on paper. But in a technical sense, black and white are not colors, they're shades"

[STEMO]

Yep, black is the absence of colour and white is the combination of all colours. But, as we were talking about human complexions, no one is black and no one is white. More pink and brown.

[Entwood]

For 41 minutes ...  yup.. that long .. they talked to him, tested him, and there was absolutely no problem .. apparently he was "co-operative and almost jovial" .... then for reasons not explained anywhere .. they decided to hand cuff him ..... why, how, what force involved, where they physically hurting him ?   ........  at which point it all went downhill .... and given the recent history of what happens to black folk in custody, I can understand his concern at the sudden "change" in the police approach....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53084232

"After pulling over his vehicle, the father-of-four appeared "slightly impaired, but his behaviour during this incident was almost jovial", Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said on Wednesday.

For over 40 minutes, video shows him complying with officers as he consented to a weapons search and provided them with his identification details.

However, as officers tried to handcuff him, he began struggling."

[Doctor Gollum]

We weren't there to comment on what caused the escalation. Could have been a perception of a change in body language that isn't clear to the viewer. Could also have been in response to an instruction from their supervisors.

How many of us have responded to an instinct, nuance or 'feeling' even if it subsequently proved unfounded...

Should he have struggled when they cuffed him (regardless of why they decided to do so)? Never a good idea. Ever. Regardless of circumstance/race.

Should he have grabbed the taser? Obviously not.

Should they have shot his three times with a semi automatic service pistol? Ideally not, but ultimately depends on how they were trained... personally, I would have thought a single round fired with consideration would have been more appropriate (at this point in the escalation).

[TheBoy]

For 41 minutes ...  yup.. that long .. they talked to him, tested him, and there was absolutely no problem .. apparently he was "co-operative and almost jovial" .... then for reasons not explained anywhere .. they decided to hand cuff him ..... why, how, what force involved, where they physically hurting him ?   ........  at which point it all went downhill .... and given the recent history of what happens to black folk in custody, I can understand his concern at the sudden "change" in the police approach....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53084232

"After pulling over his vehicle, the father-of-four appeared "slightly impaired, but his behaviour during this incident was almost jovial", Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said on Wednesday.

For over 40 minutes, video shows him complying with officers as he consented to a weapons search and provided them with his identification details.

However, as officers tried to handcuff him, he began struggling."

And that bares no resemblance to the report yesterday, and the clip shown.  I guess the beeb had realised he'd dropped a bollock and maybe told the truth for a minute, so have now retold it to make it more attractive to current hysterical viewpoints.

Certainly yesterdays clip clearly showed the chap failing the walk test and failing a breath test, and then refusing to walk home (well, to his sisters, nearby).

Sadly, the BBC sadly falls into that dangerous trap of not letting the truth get in the way of a good story, and inciting the population to rage to generate more great headlines.