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[ret38]

Hi guys, I've posted a similar topic before and still couldn't fix the problem. I bought a NCDC2015 paired with CID, my car is 2000 Elegance Omega equipped with CCRT 2008 and Bose. I didn't find necessary  wiring taped under old screen for my CID. I met a guy claiming to be capable of making sockets and wiring for CID and HU, but the problem is we don't have necessary wiring scheme. I asked Opel for the Scheme but they couldn't help either. So if any of you guys can help me I really appreciate that as I bought this unit 6 months ago and still had no progress with it. 

[TheBoy]

Is it just the Nav Map thats not working? Or is nothing on the CID working?

I did post up somewhere the pinouts for a CCR2006 to NCDC2013 adapter, but as you already have a CCRT, I think the core wiring for NCDC to display will work.

If its just the Nav Map part, thats just a case of adding the wires for the small CID plug.

[ret38]

Thanks for the reply. I haven't installed the system yet. When I removed previous screen it had a plug that fits CID but on CID there is another socket needs plug, I guess it was 12 PIN. As I removed CCRT2008 I see ( as a non electric guy) the sockets were pretty much similar to NCDC2015. I tried the screen on one plug that I already have and it booted, it showed Opel logo time date but none of the controls were working, I guess that is the missing plug. So I'm not expert and the expert told me he needs a wiring scheme😒. Also I don't have telematics. I will not use any navigation. Just the cool look, all working warnings and CD on the NCDC 2015.

[Doctor Gollum]

The NCDC display is controlled by the head unit, whereas the CCRT2008 is run from the stalk

[ret38]

So do I need to change wiring from CCRT2008 to NCDC2015 or just plug and play? Also how to make additional wiring for CID?

[Doctor Gollum]

You need the extra loom for the CID, and technically a non computer wiper switch. (you might get away with simply unplugging the small plug where the stalk enters the column... It's only a couple of screws to remove the upper cover and you'll see the plug there)

It should otherwise work but wont display any nav information. For that you also need the GPS wiring.

[ret38]

I see, but how do I make/buy that extra loom for the CID? I can make it if I had a wiring scheme.

[Vega]

So do I need to change wiring from CCRT2008 to NCDC2015 or just plug and play? Also how to make additional wiring for CID?

No it is not p&p, you need to change the wiring on the radio connector.

I see, but how do I make/buy that extra loom for the CID? I can make it if I had a wiring scheme.

I have some complete CID loom for sale

[ret38]

So do I need to change wiring from CCRT2008 to NCDC2015 or just plug and play? Also how to make additional wiring for CID?

No it is not p&p, you need to change the wiring on the radio connector.

I see, but how do I make/buy that extra loom for the CID? I can make it if I had a wiring scheme.

I have some complete CID loom for sale

Do you have I have to buy completely new wiring or can I modify the existing one?

Also how much do you want for the wiring? Is it just extra 12 pin for CID or all wiring for NCDC2015 and CID?

[TheBoy]

Just pop it in and see what works.

The missing connector is only ever used for the map display, nothing else.  If thats all that needs doing, thats simple enough to add. But see what else needs doing first.

[TheBoy]

The NCDC display is controlled by the head unit, whereas the CCRT2008 is run from the stalk

That doesnt impact wiring.

[Doctor Gollum]

The NCDC display is controlled by the head unit, whereas the CCRT2008 is run from the stalk

That doesnt impact wiring.

Fair dos, but unplugging/replacing will remove the misconception that they actually do something 

[Vega]

Do you have I have to buy completely new wiring or can I modify the existing one?

No you don't have to buy extra wiring, you need to modify the existing wires on the connector.

Also how much do you want for the wiring? Is it just extra 12 pin for CID or all wiring for NCDC2015 and CID?

It is only an extra cable for the CID.

Just pop it in and see what works.

Will not work.

[ret38]

Do you have I have to buy completely new wiring or can I modify the existing one?

No you don't have to buy extra wiring, you need to modify the existing wires on the connector.

Also how much do you want for the wiring? Is it just extra 12 pin for CID or all wiring for NCDC2015 and CID?

It is only an extra cable for the CID.

Just pop it in and see what works.

Will not work.

Thanks for the reply, so do you know where can I learn what to change and modify the wiring? And how to add 12 pin CID connector to the wiring loom? Any tutorial or PIN modification guide?

[TheBoy]

Will not work.

From memory, between a CCRT and NCDC, it will.  It defo won't between a CCR and NCDC.