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[Doctor Gollum]

Will not work.

From memory, between a CCRT and NCDC, it will.  It defo won't between a CCR and NCDC.

Agreed because both have telephone and computer functions 

[ret38]

Will not work.

From memory, between a CCRT and NCDC, it will.  It defo won't between a CCR and NCDC.

Agreed because both have telephone and computer functions 

Then I'll stop by the electrician and try to install it without any modifications and see whats will happen.

[Vega]

Then I'll stop by the electrician and try to install it without any modifications and see whats will happen.

That is a waist of time and money.

[Doctor Gollum]

Then I'll stop by the electrician and try to install it without any modifications and see whats will happen.

That is a waist of time and money.

Unless he is incapable of doing the job himself... Also given his location, summat may be lost in translation 

[ret38]

Hi guys unfortunately it didn't worked I took my CID and NCDC 2015 from electrician to do it myself after waiting for him to figure out the wiring for 1 month. I removed speed cluster and CCRT 2008. Pluged CID and NCDC 2015, The screen booted but only showed Opel logo date and time, after asking to check breaklights and no other controls was working. The radio was working but only  on/off I guess. I coudl hear the radio and turn the volume up and down, but can't change stations or to CD, also the screen didn't show the info. After a big disappointment I reinstalled cluster and old HU. I realized 'Sport' light was not working. The transmission works with the sport button as it should be but I guess I broke sth on cluster wiring or just the light in the cluster broken down. Any advice for radio + CID and how to replace lights in the cluster?

[Doctor Gollum]

Sport light might simply be a bulb.

Five minutes to pull the cluster to check

[ret38]

Sport light might simply be a bulb.

Five minutes to pull the cluster to check

Any advice on which type of bulb to bu? I'm handy with tools but lack information on these kind of stuff. Also if it is easy I'would like to change all lights on the cluster with new amber lights. Any spesification for the bulbs?

[Doctor Gollum]

Not without coming over and looking at what's already fitted

The lighting colour is fixed by filters within the cluster... All the bulbs are plain.

[ret38]

Not without coming over and looking at what's already fitted

The lighting colour is fixed by filters within the cluster... All the bulbs are plain.

Thank you, I'll see what I can do then.

[TheBoy]

As to wiring, sorry, yes there is a difference (aside from the RGB cable, that is only used for displaying the Map view).

I cant copy the diagrams easily, so I've had to screen dump them.

https://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/ncdc_ccrt_wiring/

So, pins you are interested in, in addition to the RGB cable (the smaller of the 2 connectors) are pins 25, 32, 33 on NCDC and pins 10, 11 on NCDC

I would do this on a "trafficmaster" loom to save butchering the car loom.  This is a short 36way ISO to 36way ISO loom.

in the diagrams uploaded:
ncdc.JPG = NCDC201x
ccrt.JPG = CCRT200x
cid.JPG = Colour Information Display
cart.JPG = CCRT Display (and also covers standard MID)

[ret38]

As to wiring, sorry, yes there is a difference (aside from the RGB cable, that is only used for displaying the Map view).

I cant copy the diagrams easily, so I've had to screen dump them.

https://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/ncdc_ccrt_wiring/

So, pins you are interested in, in addition to the RGB cable (the smaller of the 2 connectors) are pins 25, 32, 33 on NCDC and pins 10, 11 on NCDC

I would do this on a "trafficmaster" loom to save butchering the car loom.  This is a short 36way ISO to 36way ISO loom.

in the diagrams uploaded:
ncdc.JPG = NCDC201x
ccrt.JPG = CCRT200x
cid.JPG = Colour Information Display
cart.JPG = CCRT Display (and also covers standard MID)

Thanks a lot mate, So I will not use telematic+Navigation, does that mean I'll not need RGB cable?
Also I don't know what is trafficmaster. In Turkey none of the cars are equipped with factory Navigation, is it sth related to the navigation?
As far as I,an idiot reading charts, understand I'll not need to buy additional wiring for the swap. I just need to understand the scheme you sent me and make the necessary pin swaps right?

[TheBoy]

The RGB cable is only used when displaying the map function of the navigation, including the pop-up map. These functions produce a blank screen if no RGB cable.

It is not required for any other function, including the pictorial sat nav.

Telematics doesn't need RGB cable to function, even if you did fit it.


The telematics loom is just a 36way ISO extension lead (with minor modifications), and is useful if you want to add the RGB or do other loom mods. Certainly not essential if you are happy to cut and modify the existing loom.

[ret38]

The RGB cable is only used when displaying the map function of the navigation, including the pop-up map. These functions produce a blank screen if no RGB cable.

It is not required for any other function, including the pictorial sat nav.

Telematics doesn't need RGB cable to function, even if you did fit it.


The telematics loom is just a 36way ISO extension lead (with minor modifications), and is useful if you want to add the RGB or do other loom mods. Certainly not essential if you are happy to cut and modify the existing loom.

I didn't understand the schemes but I'll ask a friend if he is familiar with these kind of things, I was thinking about buying a loom ( https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/opel-omega-adapterkabel-ncdr/1437566836-223-1124 ) like this one but it is very expensive. I hope I'll make it work with your schemes. Thanks a lot man.