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Re: 2030
« Reply #30 on: 16 November 2020, 06:23:47 »

For those who think that electric vehicles will be cheap to run, I read this morning that Rishi is already working out how to make up the £40 billion the treasury will lose in fuel tax. A national road pricing scheme looks favourite. More infrastructure, more outlay.
Of course, if you still run a diesel/petrol, I can't see you being exempt from that, so double whammy.
Perhaps......maybe.....one day  ::)
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« Reply #31 on: 16 November 2020, 08:25:50 »

When the first nuclear power station was being built, the Govt. said the electricity would be so cheap to produce it wouldnt be worth the cost of sending out bills. Look how that worked out.
Motoring wont ever be cheap because the state cant afford to allow it to be cheap.
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« Reply #32 on: 16 November 2020, 08:26:22 »

For those who think that electric vehicles will be cheap to run, I read this morning that Rishi is already working out how to make up the £40 billion the treasury will lose in fuel tax. A national road pricing scheme looks favourite. More infrastructure, more outlay.
Of course, if you still run a diesel/petrol, I can't see you being exempt from that, so double whammy.
Perhaps......maybe.....one day  ::)
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This has already been looked into before, wasted millions on research into it then it got abandoned, still it will give some civil servants something to do while their pensions are  building up nicely + their will undoubtedly be ways to evade the charges so will get the unscrupulous amongst us thinking.
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« Reply #33 on: 16 November 2020, 08:28:39 »

Imo it has to happen. The amount of money the treasury will lose on the duty from petrol / derv will be colossal.
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« Reply #34 on: 16 November 2020, 08:32:08 »

Imo it has to happen. The amount of money the treasury will lose on the duty from petrol / derv will be colossal.
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Raise income tax for the young who are working & are members of the green brigade let them pay for all the bullshit.
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« Reply #35 on: 16 November 2020, 13:28:56 »

Yeah like thats going to happen. ::)
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« Reply #36 on: 16 November 2020, 13:41:11 »

What about the old people who are working?

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« Reply #37 on: 16 November 2020, 14:28:14 »

What about the old people who are working?

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And the middle aged, don't forget those rich bastards.
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« Reply #38 on: 16 November 2020, 15:10:41 »

As long a they leave us poor pensioners alone nothing matters, have seen a nice cycle in our local shop ,done it before can do it again. 🚲🚲🚲
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« Reply #39 on: 16 November 2020, 15:11:13 »

As for the availability of older vehicles, look around you: they've become so expensive to maintain and repair that many today's twenty year old cars are one bill away from being scrapped. Manufacturers have long implied that they design for a seven year working life!
My daily driven 28 year car is fine. Parts are plentiful and reasonably cheap. Some cars stand the test of time.
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« Reply #40 on: 16 November 2020, 15:15:03 »

They should have thought about the revenue loss before they subsidised the arse out of hybrids/golf carts.

Put 10p a litre on fuel duty and make anything that produces less than 200 emissions pay £300 a year on roadtax.

But pay per mile? Yous can opps right off >:(
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Re: 2030
« Reply #41 on: 16 November 2020, 17:08:53 »

When the first nuclear power station was being built, the Govt. said the electricity would be so cheap to produce it wouldnt be worth the cost of sending out bills. Look how that worked out.
Motoring wont ever be cheap because the state cant afford to allow it to be cheap.
The government has to pay for the lame and lazy and their own utterly inefficient civil service.

That in itself means the books can never be balanced, even with our current taxation.

And those brain deads who keep banging on about taxing the rich? Wake up, their arent enough rich people.


As always, the answer is a population reduction. And the chinese infection isn't doing a good enough job.
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« Reply #42 on: 16 November 2020, 17:14:32 »

Does anyone actually realise how short a time ten years is to get all of this crap in place? The consultations alone will take about two years. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Anyhow, no one will need to drive a car, HS2 will get you up and down the country in a jiffy.
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« Reply #43 on: 16 November 2020, 17:22:25 »

Anyhow, no one will need to drive a car, HS2 will get you up and down the country in a jiffy.
Only once you've driven 80 miles to London or Birmingham.

Thats another £5000 for *every* worker, including those on low incomes, to pay for that, and £2k pa for every worker to run it.  For Phase 1 only (Phase 2 will never go ahead I was told by HS2 Ltd a few years ago).  All at a time that even those in charge can see its no longer needed - not that it was in the first place.
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« Reply #44 on: 16 November 2020, 17:23:51 »

Anyhow, no one will need to drive a car, HS2 will get you up and down the country in a jiffy.
Only once you've driven 80 miles to London or Birmingham.

Thats another £5000 for *every* worker, including those on low incomes, to pay for that, and £2k pa for every worker to run it.  For Phase 1 only (Phase 2 will never go ahead I was told by HS2 Ltd a few years ago).  All at a time that even those in charge can see its no longer needed - not that it was in the first place.
I know all that, but I like to make you angry  :-*  ;D
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