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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #30 on: 26 November 2020, 17:48:17 »

It would be in his contract... Work pensions are a benefit, not a right, and gross misconduct generally forfeits any benefits.
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #31 on: 26 November 2020, 17:55:36 »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-55089146

Seems a pretty high price to pay for some doughnuts .....

He's been a copper since 2008 so not too much pension, which I'm guessing he loses .....


12 years Pension would be worth a fair few quid they used to be able to retire on a full pension after 30 years service, don't think that has changed & yes I would imagine he'll lose the lot but serves him right.
I've always wondered about that. His pension payments would have been deducted from his salary and his employer would have contributed too. Surely they must return anything he's actually paid in, or they are punishing him retrospectively?
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If it's the same as HMPS Steve he would receive nothing , known a few over the years who have been " walked to the gate" for being completely stupid.
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #32 on: 26 November 2020, 18:29:33 »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-55089146

Seems a pretty high price to pay for some doughnuts .....

He's been a copper since 2008 so not too much pension, which I'm guessing he loses .....

I've always wondered about that. His pension payments would have been deducted from his salary and his employer would have contributed too. Surely they must return anything he's actually paid in, or they are punishing him retrospectively?

I would have thought that his own personal contributions could be transferred to another pension, just as if he'd left the job of his own accord. The company contributions would stay in the pension scheme pot, so still a big loss.  :-\  I thought this was the case for all but the serious crimes committed though, like stealing real doughnuts, instead of those horrible shiny things in a box.  :-\
It won't keep me awake worrying about it though.  ::)
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #33 on: 26 November 2020, 19:51:44 »

Should be ok for a career in the private security trade.  :)
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #34 on: 26 November 2020, 19:59:53 »

Should be ok for a career in the private security trade.  :)
But not store detective.
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #35 on: 26 November 2020, 20:40:50 »

How about Greggs ?
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #36 on: 26 November 2020, 20:51:47 »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-55089146

Seems a pretty high price to pay for some doughnuts .....

He's been a copper since 2008 so not too much pension, which I'm guessing he loses .....

I've always wondered about that. His pension payments would have been deducted from his salary and his employer would have contributed too. Surely they must return anything he's actually paid in, or they are punishing him retrospectively?

I would have thought that his own personal contributions could be transferred to another pension, just as if he'd left the job of his own accord. The company contributions would stay in the pension scheme pot, so still a big loss.  :-\  I thought this was the case for all but the serious crimes committed though, like stealing real doughnuts, instead of those horrible shiny things in a box.  :-\
It won't keep me awake worrying about it though.  ::)

There is no pot - no concept of personal or company contributions. It's effectively a government run Ponzi scheme. The Govt promise to pay the pension from future taxation.  You qualify for the pension by paying your contributions. There is no link between what you pay in, and what you get back as a pension.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me to find that the govt have overlooked some aspects of pension law here. If the pension was non contributory than they may be ok revoking the pension rights. However, if he's been paying contributions to qualify for the scheme then as you say they are confiscating something he's paid for. There is also the issue of Police pension reform, which happened in 2012, where they close the old scheme and opened the new one. 

I can see a clued up lawyer running rings round the govt here if the ex-officer decides to take things further.
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #37 on: 26 November 2020, 21:20:00 »

 clued up lawyers don't work for peanuts donuts   ;D
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #38 on: 26 November 2020, 21:22:19 »

He could change the price sticker on some champagne?
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #40 on: 26 November 2020, 23:40:57 »

While it's possible DG, think his contributions will just be frozen
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #42 on: 27 November 2020, 11:18:16 »

His pension will be forfeited.
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #43 on: 27 November 2020, 11:31:41 »

His pension will be forfeited.
The man who knows, that's good enough for me.
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Re: Who says the police just sit around eating donuts?
« Reply #44 on: 27 November 2020, 11:56:46 »

Well, he 'saved' almost £10 to put into his new pension...
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