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[Lizzie Zoom]

In my experience Lizzie most young people have very little interest in history. Young people tend to live in moment.....which is both good and bad.

I'd wager that if you showed a picture of 'Winnie' and a picture of Beyonce (or any other celeb) to 100 14/15 year olds the vast majority would have no idea who Churchill was.

The 'woke' university kids may recognise him slightly more but generally not in a positive way.

That's life, I suppose.

That is not my experience.  But the current generation are no different to our generation.  How many kids in the 1960's were interested in anything but the current pop scene, girls (in the case of the boys) and boys, with hair, make up and the latest fashions, in the case of us girls. Indeed everything before "our time" was very old, grey, drab, boring and square!

With advancing age Opti we can all become cynical of the modern generation, but they will prove to be little different from us when they mature and take up fully the reigns and responsibility of life.  What our generation should be doing now is just hoping the young will start to correct and resolve the issues we have left during our lives but that will take time and new attitudes about what is really important.

As you say, "that's life"

This is broadly what I said in my first sentence, Lizzie......

Your second paragraph demonstrates the ground people our age now occupy, as we  become increasingly aware of our mortality.......and we are all a long time dead.

No, not quite.  You was making the statement they have little to no interest.  Although I recognise that the young are no different to as we were, they actually are more "World Aware" with the magic of the internet that now brings into their homes more facts about history, and everything else. They also have universal television, documentaries and the ability to see the war films that are still popular.  More of them study hard at school, then college, and progress to uni, with large numbers studying history and politics as I did.  Certainly us girls were once not meant to do that, but now far more young females now enter the "serious" subjects as also found out at uni with 60% of the years occupied by women.

So from that point of view, today's youngsters are actually in higher numbers, and actively involved in higher studies than ever before, and of course they have to be in our Country's IT and advanced, in everything, age. Yes, in the ways I stated they are little different to how we were at their ages, but now they aim higher and in greater numbers.  To simply rule the younger generation out and say they have little interest in history, World politics, or anything else is doing them an injustice.  The World we have created is far more complicated than it was for us, so from that point of view I am glad I had my childhood when I did!

Hmmm......I'm not so sure Victorian England was as romantic and simple as you make out, Lizzie....

  Now they were seriously hard times for most of the population, as my Great Great Grandmother knew in Jack the Ripper land

[Lizzie Zoom]

I would say he was simply a man of his time, much like the slave traders  200  years before him, who were probably considered successful businessmen rather than evil white oppressors.

Only George Floyd was without flaws.   May I suggest a statue for the great man.

I believe that there is an empty statue plinth on Bristol docks that the young wokish would deem a suitable spot! 

The last I knew was that some wit had placed a model of Darth Vader on it, in honour of the Bristolian actor who played him and died very recently

[STEMO]

I would say he was simply a man of his time, much like the slave traders  200  years before him, who were probably considered successful businessmen rather than evil white oppressors.

Only George Floyd was without flaws.   May I suggest a statue for the great man.

I believe that there is an empty statue plinth on Bristol docks that the young wokish would deem a suitable spot! 

Quite windy down there, it would catch his lips.

You can't say that in 2020......Oh you just did.

Have you seen the caricature that BLM use of him?

[Sir Tigger KC]

I would say he was simply a man of his time, much like the slave traders  200  years before him, who were probably considered successful businessmen rather than evil white oppressors.

Only George Floyd was without flaws.   May I suggest a statue for the great man.

I believe that there is an empty statue plinth on Bristol docks that the young wokish would deem a suitable spot! 

Quite windy down there, it would catch his lips.

They could put his statue on a base that spins in the wind and generates electricity, which would be even more wokey right-on! 

[Raeturbo]

Indeed Steve, let the lips be with you👍

[STEMO]

I would say he was simply a man of his time, much like the slave traders  200  years before him, who were probably considered successful businessmen rather than evil white oppressors.

Only George Floyd was without flaws.   May I suggest a statue for the great man.

I believe that there is an empty statue plinth on Bristol docks that the young wokish would deem a suitable spot! 

Quite windy down there, it would catch his lips.

They could put his statue on a base that spins in the wind and generates electricity, which would be even more wokey right-on! 

Racist bastard 

[Raeturbo]

Can I still ask for black Jap screws now, or is it screw of colour Jap screws. Don’t want to offend anyone like 🎃😇

[B52]

Lizzie/Dr Opti -

The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.

- Socrates [470-399 BC], or more likely Kenneth Freeman, 1907.

[dave the builder]

Can I still ask for black Jap screws now, or is it screw of colour Jap screws. Don’t want to offend anyone like 🎃😇

"5 dollar long time"     there are cheaper ways to get a fix to your wood 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Can I still ask for black Jap screws now, or is it screw of colour Jap screws. Don’t want to offend anyone like 🎃😇

What if you have a problem with your 'old fella' an have to got to the Dr? 

Hi Doc my Jap eye ain't quite right!   Ooops!   

Maybe there's a suitable Welsh word we could use instead Rae?     Although if English peeps go round using Welsh words we'll get told off for cultural appropriation!   Sigh... 

[STEMO]

Can I still ask for black Jap screws now, or is it screw of colour Jap screws. Don’t want to offend anyone like 🎃😇

What if you have a problem with your 'old fella' an have to got to the Dr? 

Hi Doc my Jap eye ain't quite right!   Ooops!   

Maybe there's a suitable Welsh word we could use instead Rae?     Although if English peeps go round using Welsh words we'll get told off for cultural appropriation!   Sigh... 

Innit. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There are no anti-black laws.

It is no longer legal for  the police to charge a black man with being  found in possession of excessively large rubbery lips.

The law is the same for all of us*


With the exception of the extremely wealthy and powerful*

[Rangie]

Who remembers Chicken George from Roots ? Never caused any problems & was a great slave they had it all back then.

[STEMO]

Who remembers Chicken George from Roots ? Never caused any problems & was a great slave they had it all back then.

Kunta Kinte is the name that sticks in my mind from that series.

[Rangie]

Who remembers Chicken George from Roots ? Never caused any problems & was a great slave they had it all back then.

Kunta Kinte is the name that sticks in my mind from that series.

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George Floyd , was a right kunta 😃