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Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« on: 17 March 2021, 17:17:04 »

So now the EU, after being too damned slow in securing the vaccines originally, then being ridiculously slow in vaccinating their citizens, then banning the use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca over unsubstantiated concerns of blood clotting, now are warning that they may well block the UK's supplies of that vaccine to level up the playing field!!! :o :o :o :o :o

The Government are now warning this afternoon that supplies of the vaccines could be significantly reduced from March 29th!!

Who the hell does the EU think they are.  They alone restricted the ability of their citizens to receive vaccinations, with I think just around 17 million in total for the whole of the EU, being so far given their jab, compared to over 25 million for the UK, but now want to penalize us for their stupidity and inefficiency. >:( >:(

Thank God we are no longer part of the EU as I, along with many millions of UK citizens, would not have been able to have our injections.

Our Government must put their foot down on this, and are already warning that "Contracts must be honored" :y :y
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #1 on: 17 March 2021, 17:19:23 »

WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #2 on: 17 March 2021, 17:22:10 »

What is it good for?
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #3 on: 17 March 2021, 17:26:47 »

In today's figures, people testing positive is only down 1.2% over the last week. People dying and people admitted to hospital are down 30% and 25% respectively. This proves, to me, that the vaccine is working.
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #4 on: 17 March 2021, 17:48:29 »

Not sure that is a scientific conclusion. It could for example be as a result of whatever lockdown measure was in place  a few weeks back. However that is what the experts are saying so it must be right!

European country expat forums are full of threads on vaccine war and have been for weeks. Austria are now demanding their fair share for example so doses arent even allocated per capita to EU countries.

This latest action by the EU is just a distraction technique to take the heat off Brussells for being so tardy in ordering. I wonder if AZ wished now that they had charged a rip off price like the other vaccine players?
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #5 on: 17 March 2021, 18:04:26 »

Not sure that is a scientific conclusion. It could for example be as a result of whatever lockdown measure was in place  a few weeks back. However that is what the experts are saying so it must be right!

European country expat forums are full of threads on vaccine war and have been for weeks. Austria are now demanding their fair share for example so doses arent even allocated per capita to EU countries.

This latest action by the EU is just a distraction technique to take the heat off Brussells for being so tardy in ordering. I wonder if AZ wished now that they had charged a rip off price like the other vaccine players?
It's what I'm saying, too, so it's definitely right.
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #6 on: 17 March 2021, 18:51:07 »

The E.U. is showing its true colours now  >:(
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #7 on: 17 March 2021, 20:58:22 »

Thank fk we're out of that corrupt fkd up shithouse of a gang.
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #8 on: 17 March 2021, 22:10:21 »

Thank fk we're out of that corrupt fkd up shithouse of a gang.
Eloquent, as ever, Rae. ;D
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #9 on: 17 March 2021, 23:01:57 »

A group of friends book a table at a restaurant for dinner. 

All but one order and pay for their meals in advance, turn up at the booked time and are served their meals promptly.

The other friend turns up late, orders his meal, but insists that it is served at the same time as his friends pre ordered meals.  When the waiter says that this is not possible he has a complete meltdown, barges into the kitchen to see what's going on, threatens to sue the restaurant and his friends, and then tries to steal his friends meals.

That friend is the EU....
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #10 on: 17 March 2021, 23:17:39 »

Thanks Steve, ;) and cracking analogy other Steve :y :y
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #11 on: 17 March 2021, 23:23:36 »

A very good analogy indeed.  :y
They are flailing around and lashing out in utter desperation. Ursula is utterly incompetent (ask any German) and is desperately trying to make sure she doesnt get the blame no matter what happens.
If tens of thousands of people die as a result, I imagine it wont matter much. Just a bit of collateral damage.
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #12 on: 17 March 2021, 23:36:07 »

Thank God we are no longer part of the EU as I, along with many millions of UK citizens, would not have been able to have our injections.

Why? In the UK the authority for drug approval is (and has been since 2003) the MHRA. Here is a list of more than 23000 drugs that the MHRA had approved for use in the UK up to 2015.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/297628/response/731166/attach/3/All%20MAs%20listing.xls?cookie_passthrough=1

The list is a result of a FOI request issued in October 2015, so well before the vote to leave the EU. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/drug_approval_dates

EU countries can if they wish approve drugs through their own national bodies just like the UK has been doing for 18 years. The EMA is actually a body made up from representatives of many national bodies, although the UK is obviously not now a member. The fact that various countries are dicking about and waiting for the EU/EMA to get their ducks in a row is down to national politics and incompetence. If a country doesn't want to dick about it doesn't have to. Some countries may not have the structures in place, or the scientific know-how, to approve drugs nationally because they have relied on the EMA to do that. Again that's a political decision that they have taken, and perhaps they will review that decision in the light of recent experiences.

Either way, member of the EU or not makes no difference to whether you would have got your jab or not. The rest of your post does have merit though.
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #13 on: 17 March 2021, 23:41:07 »

Great Britain is  the official  world pandemic vaccine champions  :y
The rest of Europe is in a state of utter confusion , new cases of covid are rising & their lock-downs are tightening. Multiple EU countries  have stopped using the AstraZeneca vaccine until the EMA says "yes" or "no" whether it is safe.
I think Bulgaria must come pretty low down  on the vaccine score card, only about 270.000 ppl have so far  been vaccinated including their PM & all his family & friends  ::)
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Re: Have their cake and eat it EU on Vaccinations
« Reply #14 on: 17 March 2021, 23:54:28 »

Great Britain is  the official  world pandemic vaccine champions  :y
The rest of Europe is in a state of utter confusion , new cases of covid are rising & their lock-downs are tightening. Multiple EU countries  have stopped using the AstraZeneca vaccine until the EMA says "yes" or "no" whether it is safe.
I think Bulgaria must come pretty low down  on the vaccine score card, only about 270.000 ppl have so far  been vaccinated including their PM & all his family & friends  ::)

That bit is actually fake news  ;D but that German bint will thank me for it  ::)
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