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[Marks DTM Calib]

Do NOT use SSD for any media or files you want to keep 

[Mr Skrunts]

Do NOT use SSD for any media or files you want to keep 

Why though? value your view as well others on all things technical.

Personally I dont trust any hard drives, for various reasons.

I dump them on a HD, copy them to SSD to work/sort with and then copy back to a backup drive.

[TheBoy]

AMD processors haven't been ever worth considering until last year.  Despite the specs and synthetic benchmarks, the real life performance has always been lacklustre compared to the equivalent Intel.

They are definitely on a par now though, as Intel have stumbled a bit.

Jury is still out on reliability.  AMD traditionally have woeful reliability - in a professional capacity, I've had 2 Intel CPU failures, and probably around 1000 AMD ones.  However, now they use TMSC foundries, that hopefully is a thing of the past.



SSDs tend to fail catastrophically, for reasons other than wear. No chance of recovery.  A spinner usually gives you plenty of warning, and most data is recoverable.

All consumer grade SSDs are TLC, so lower reliability and lower endurance.  But the speed makes them worthwhile for day to day use.

Any current flash device is not suited to long term storage, and subject to bit flipping, hence use them for fast online storage, but back them up regularly or use a better storage facility for long term storage.

[Mr Skrunts]

Cheers, I seem to be doing the right thing with the drives then.

As for AMD v Intel, that battle will go on for years with point scoring againt each other.  Different benchmarks win points for differnt arguements.

[Broomies Mate]

Cheers, I seem to be doing the right thing with the drives then.

As for AMD v Intel, that battle will go on for years with point scoring againt each other.  Different benchmarks win points for differnt arguements.

Seriously, it'll take Intel at least 3 if not 5 years to come back at AMD.

Still using 14nm compared to 7nm 

I still use Intel, as *most* of what I do (Gaming) is single core intensive...... so the advantages of AMD don't really help.  I occasionally delve back into a bit of graphic design and photo-editing, which my i9 10900k is 'ok' at.

Power consumption for the Intel processors is through the roof (desktop processors) as well, which means higher operating temps and of course, a thirst for a larger power supply.

I do ok with a Corsair HX850w Platinum PSU, but I do use an AIO cooler for the CPU (240mm Radiator) and have 6no 120mm Fans.

Just referring back to LC0112G - Overclocking and Motherboard choices are incredibly important.  Running your RAM with an XMP profile (supported on all OC'ing Mobo's) is a surefire way of getting the maximum performance from the RAM.  OC'ing the CPU it'self.... well, it's free performance (provided you have the cooling capacity for it), so why not?

I don't really see the point in OC'ing GPU's.  Most are OC'd from the factory from the reference models, so I don't tend to spend much time with that..... a quick 125% on Core Clock, 500MHz on Memory Clock and that'll ding-dang-do.

[Mr Skrunts]

Ooooo..3 items in the order

2 x RAM & 1 x M.2. been dispatched . .so looking good so far . . .mmmm, just noticed. YODEL is delivering it.

USB pen awaiting dispatch . . . lets see who they send that which.




Interesting the Cash back (Pricematch) from the RAM becomes a credit towards the next order (Allways been like this(with 3 months to use it)) So added a 1TB 2.5inch HD to the basket, same higher delivery price as yesterday.  Wonder if they change that?

[Mr Skrunts]

Ok, so got interested in all the replies, and came to the conclustion that the current system is OK (Mobo & CPU wise)

So currently about to get double the ram 16GB to 32GB

250GB M2 EVO upgrade to 1TB Gen 4 M.2

Allways have a treat for my birthday (no one else gets me anything)

Next treat is a GPU upgrade and a bigger Monitor me thinks.

[LC0112G]

Just referring back to LC0112G - Overclocking and Motherboard choices are incredibly important.  Running your RAM with an XMP profile (supported on all OC'ing Mobo's) is a surefire way of getting the maximum performance from the RAM.  OC'ing the CPU it'self.... well, it's free performance (provided you have the cooling capacity for it), so why not?

I wanted on-board LPT, Serial, Gigabit Ethernet, VGA DSub15 and VGA HDMI. I also like slimline microATX cases, which need SFX PSU's and they top out at 500W. Few of the gaming and overclocking MOBO's have all that, and they tend to be 'kin expensive too.

I rarely buy top of the line anything unless it's as cheap as the alternatives or there is a significant performance benefit (significant to me is 50%+).

The most CPU intensive stuff I do is compiling Xilinx FPGA code under Vivado. A 'simple' design might take 2-5 minutes. Overclocking by a few percent might shave a few seconds off, but the extra cost of a K processor, and power supply, and fan, just isn't worth it IMV. Some bits of Vivado are multithread capable, but lots of it runs single threaded. If I run the same design on the 10600K and the 10700, there is virtually no difference between the run times (perhaps a second or two), so extra cores or hyper-threading have virtually no effect.

Compiling code on Visual Studio 6 is blisteringly fast. Visual Studio 2019 less fast - so much for improvement!  Texas Code Composer 3, Microchip MPLAB, Atmel Studio and a few Ethernet/USB utilities and I'm happy. Still miss FDISK though :-)

[Mr Skrunts]

I spend a lot of my time on spread sheets and allthough I have a 28" 4K monitor I allways run it 1440 as it feels more comfortable on my eyes (increased to font % res a tad as well)

So today being nosy I see that Asus are making a 360 Hz Monitor (sadly only 24.5") so typical me off I went looking for an upgrade (32" min) and abetter refresh rat than mine (144Hz) seems to be the favourite choice of buyers))

Found this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VV59NVK/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

Which was £899 this after noon  . . . now trying to imagine how it will look on my desk . . . but think its toooo big.

[Mr Skrunts]

So just uped mine from

1440@60hz
to
1600@60Hz

Gained a few rows on a spread sheet, no extra eye strain.

Me thinhs bigger 4K monitor is on the shopping list.

[LC0112G]

I bought a 32" 4k monitor a few years back, and found it unusable. If you sit close enough to use the resolution you get neck ache looking up and down the screen. If you sit far enough away to see all the screen at once then you need to increase the font size to read anything.

I much prefer using two 24" 1920 monitors side by side. Not running games so refresh rate largely irrelevant as long as it's >= 60Hz. Two screens also means I can run my DOS PCB design software on one (using DOSBox), and have device data sheets open on the other. You can get wrap around/letterbox type monitors, but they're expensive and what's the point if you can just use two cheap 1920 monitors.

[Mr Skrunts]

I am sat 50" from my 28" screen at the moment. (Glasses to screen)

If I upgrade then the distance will be greater as I will be changeing what the monitor stands on.

[Mr Skrunts]

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No signiture and very limitied English repeated my name 3 times to the point I thought he was deaf and I need to shout back at him.

Nice thick piece of cardboard to recycle - such a waste.

[TheBoy]

As for AMD v Intel, that battle will go on for years with point scoring againt each other.  Different benchmarks win points for differnt arguements.

Up to a couple of years ago, there has been no battle since the early 90s, when AMDs were exactly clones of the Intel part.  Nothing they have done has come close to Intel's equivalent in real world.

However, Intel are now around 18 months behind, having stumbled with fabrication issues, and the extra performance hits due to all the side channel stuff.

Now they have somebody useful in charge, I'm sure they will come back strong. But they have a bit of catching up to do....    ...which is good, because it means they are offering deep discounts on some* to distributors


*not that many, as they are still having supply shortages of many desktop and laptop parts.

[TheBoy]

That said, my main desktop is an Ivy Bridge i5, and is plenty "good enough".  The other "desktop" I have in this room is a 7th gen i7, 32Gb Intel NUC. But I don't use that much, just because of which desk its on.

Heaviest thing I run on the desktops is Davinci Resolve...   ...and I tend to use the crappy Mac for that (i7, 16Gb, but has an extra discrete GPU), and the extra graphics power makes it encode quicker.

If I want to play games, thats why the dear lord invented seXbox and gaystations.