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[Nickbat]

Why shouldnt they refuse him a room....excatly what makes him so special..?

The hotel can refuse who they want...maybe it was a case they didnt want other squaddies turning up.

Sorry canmt see what all the fuss is about....

What makes him so special? Only that he is prepared to lay his life on the line to defend Queen, Country and our cosy way of life. In my opinion, society owes him a debt of respect for this which it clearly didn't show in this case.

Its a job....

He was, as I understand it, in the area to arrange the funeral for a fellow soldier who was killed in action. No, it's not just a job as you put it. These guys are expected to expose themselves to ROUTINE fatal danger in the course of their duty. No other "job" would permit such exposure.

Would YOU do it?

The UK's armed forces deserve our respect and support.

I suggest that your comment, "It's just a job", is inappropriate.  

No i certainly wouldn't do it as ive no interest in serving such a cess pit of a country and cant understand why anyone would.

He signed up for it so he would have wanted it....why pregnant dog about it when it happens.

He has made a decision too go too war and quite possibly kill or be killed why on earth should i admire that.

Oh and lets be perfectly honest a large proportion of squaddies are piss head yobs on leave....says it all really.

I wholly disagree with your views, although you are nevertheless entitled to air them. That said, I shall refrain from further comment

[amigov6]

Stuart30. Many of us have "bitchies" on here, differing opinions make the world go round & we're all entitled to our views. Despite that we can meet up or talk & laugh on other topics, no harm done. However i disagree with your opinion to the point of being disgusted with you & your comments.  I consider you a truly abhorrent & disgraceful person. You need to wind your neck in & have word with yourself.
   The "Cesspit" door is open when you're ready to leave. You won't be missed.

[JamesV6CDX]

Alright guys, different views are held, and as a result tensions are running a little bit high here.

We are all aware the admins are most possibly all in Newent, so please let's put this into perspective, and take some responsibility for keeping this as a constructive debate, rather than a flame thrower

The way I see it is this.

So far, we only have what we have read in the media, and on the internet, to go on. While this may be used to form an opinion, I am sure the majority will agree that such sources are not always 100.1% reliable. The media are known for throwing things out of proportion, and I never forget this when forming an opinion.

If the facts reported are indeed correct, and this injured soldier who was otherwise perfectly amicable was refused entry because of his profession, then, on it's merits - I think it's unfair he was turned away. Not necessarily the truth, but my opinion nevertheless. On the other end of the scale, if the hotel had previously encountered problems with soldiers, then I feel we must also respect why they may have been over cautious.

While the hotel may well have acted unreasonably, I'm not entirely sure about the soldiers claims he could not find any other hotel in the centre of Woking. He was travelling by car in a large city, therefore easily in reach of a large number of hotels, even if this means a 25 minute journey to a motorway travel lodge.

At the end of the day, this could well have been (as the hotel reported) a mistake by a member of staff - or maybe a "bad apple" working at the hotel. But ultimately, apart from pride being hurt, no real harm was done. So as long as lessons are learnt (I doubt the hotel will turn away another soldier anytime soon!) Then it's probably quite pointless to keep flaming the establishment indefinately.

While trying to remain impartial to the debate without knowing full facts from a trusted source...




I must remark on your point, Stuart30, about signing up for "Queen and Country" being an alternative to going on the Dole, and being a "Carrier" for pissheads, etc.

While not for the armed forces, In November this year, I am swearing an oath for Queen and Country in a court of law, in order to perform a new commitment which strictly speaking will make me no longer a civillian. You can't really call this a "carrier" for me, on the basis that I am going to be doing what I do alongside my full time job, on an entirely voluntary (unpaid) basis, with the end result being more support and protection for members of the public such as yourself. So Please, don't tar everyone, or even the majority, with that brush

[amigov6]

Fair point James but he's out of order. Cesspit? we're all illiterate?
  Thought a good doorman was supposed to stop fights not start 'em.
   As you stated admins busy, fair go mate we should behave in thier absence but this REALLY makes my sh*t itch. *%$"!()_<:@+!!!!!!!!!!

[Vamps]

I think the admin should pull this before some ouf our members, perhaps at Newent, read it. H21 is at home.

[JamesV6CDX]

Fair point James but he's out of order. Cesspit? we're all illiterate?
  Thought a good doorman was supposed to stop fights not start 'em.
   As you stated admins busy, fair go mate we should behave in thier absence but this REALLY makes my sh*t itch. *%$"!()_<:@+!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe so, but the respective points have been made - so let's leave it there

[Vamps]

Did you not go to Newent then james?

[amigov6]

Probably a good idea, & i know i've poured petrol on the fire.
    Too late to phone Broocie now but i think all opinions have been vented so hopefully it will die it's own death.
   My comments were more out of pure disbelief than anger but i undertook to stop ranting & will stick to my promise & shut up now.

[Vamps]

Probably a good idea, & i know i've poured petrol on the fire.
    Too late to phone Broocie now but i think all opinions have been vented so hopefully it will die it's own death.   My comments were more out of pure disbelief than anger but i undertook to stop ranting & will stick to my promise & shut up now.

I agree and suggest no further posts...........................

[JamesV6CDX]

Probably a good idea, & i know i've poured petrol on the fire.
    Too late to phone Broocie now but i think all opinions have been vented so hopefully it will die it's own death.
   My comments were more out of pure disbelief than anger but i undertook to stop ranting & will stick to my promise & shut up now.

I don't think the thread needs any radical pruning at this stage, certainly not enough to warrant getting anyone up

As you say, differences aired, so it's all over and done

[Vamps]

Probably a good idea, & i know i've poured petrol on the fire.
    Too late to phone Broocie now but i think all opinions have been vented so hopefully it will die it's own death.
   My comments were more out of pure disbelief than anger but i undertook to stop ranting & will stick to my promise & shut up now.

I don't think the thread needs any radical pruning at this stage, certainly not enough to warrant getting anyone up
As you say, differences aired, so it's all over and done

So you are there, lightweights..............

[JamesV6CDX]

Probably a good idea, & i know i've poured petrol on the fire.
    Too late to phone Broocie now but i think all opinions have been vented so hopefully it will die it's own death.
   My comments were more out of pure disbelief than anger but i undertook to stop ranting & will stick to my promise & shut up now.

I don't think the thread needs any radical pruning at this stage, certainly not enough to warrant getting anyone up
As you say, differences aired, so it's all over and done

So you are there, lightweights..............

Well I was desperate for food, so I've just rustled up some sausages cut up, with curry sauce and rice - and I reckon it rivals the curry house

[Vamps]

Probably a good idea, & i know i've poured petrol on the fire.
    Too late to phone Broocie now but i think all opinions have been vented so hopefully it will die it's own death.
   My comments were more out of pure disbelief than anger but i undertook to stop ranting & will stick to my promise & shut up now.

I don't think the thread needs any radical pruning at this stage, certainly not enough to warrant getting anyone up
As you say, differences aired, so it's all over and done

So you are there, lightweights..............

Well I was desperate for food, so I've just rustled up some sausages cut up, with curry sauce and rice - and I reckon it rivals the curry house

Thanks for making me feel hungry, just had a pork pie....
Are you at newent then, what is the weather like?  

[JamesV6CDX]

I'm at home (Or Maria's at least) - it's just calmed, but the conditions were awful, earlier.

[Vamps]

Thouht you had booked the last pitch?