150 million pounds for this

[Raeturbo]

Is this favouritism?

           https://apple.news/ASSaS7TO9Tsq4EADmVjgrKg

[dave the builder]

Madness 
people who get sent to jail only deserve basic facilities
the money should be spent on many more basic cells and tougher sentences for people who break the law
NOT en suite hotel rooms   

[STEMO]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

[Rangie]

Poor souls , they probably have mental health issues & global anxiety , show some compassion fellas..😂😂😂

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

.......and it seems that this is all you need to do. Identify as.

Most keep their dick and balls. Sorry, I mean her dick and balls.

[Lizzie Zoom]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

.......and it seems that this is all you need to do. Identify as.

Most keep their dick and balls. Sorry, I mean her dick and balls.

As usual talking with complete ignorance!!

Think yourself lucky you can just be yourself from birth and now just whatever you are.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

.......and it seems that this is all you need to do. Identify as.

Most keep their dick and balls. Sorry, I mean her dick and balls.

As usual talking with complete ignorance!!

Think yourself lucky you can just be yourself from birth and now just whatever you are.

You seem to struggle with anyone having a different opinion to your own.

[Lizzie Zoom]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

.......and it seems that this is all you need to do. Identify as.

Most keep their dick and balls. Sorry, I mean her dick and balls.

As usual talking with complete ignorance!!

Think yourself lucky you can just be yourself from birth and now just whatever you are.

You seem to struggle with anyone having a different opinion to your own.

Only when I am a specialist in a certain field and someone spouts off complete rubbish based on ignorance that is very hurtful to other human beings!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

.......and it seems that this is all you need to do. Identify as.

Most keep their dick and balls. Sorry, I mean her dick and balls.

As usual talking with complete ignorance!!

Think yourself lucky you can just be yourself from birth and now just whatever you are.

You seem to struggle with anyone having a different opinion to your own.

Only when I am a specialist in a certain field and someone spouts off complete rubbish based on ignorance that is very hurtful to other human beings!

Raeturbo posted about a deeply unpleasant biological male predator (one who identifies as a woman) who sexually assaulted two biological women  whilst in a woman's prison. A situation that that is almost inevitable when you mix male predators with women, many of whom are vulnerable.



Regardless of your own circumstances you don't get to choose the words I, or anybody else, use.

How about some compassion for the women involved.

[Raeturbo]

Indeed, Lizzie I realise how you feel about these issues but with your broader knowledge and experience with this topic, can't you see how wrong this is? It is a system begging to get exploited. There are a lot of unscrupulous people out there especially those who are going to or are in prison. An unhinged rapist could have a field day.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Indeed, Lizzie I realise how you feel about these issues but with your broader knowledge and experience with this topic, can't you see how wrong this is? It is a system begging to get exploited. There are a lot of unscrupulous people out there especially those who are going to or are in prison. An unhinged rapist could have a field day.

No, because there are safeguards in place to ensure any individual who claims to be "transgendered" is fully assessed.  Recently extra attention has been focused on those claiming to be transwomen to ascertain if they have undergone all the prescribed treatment for reassignment, full assessment by psychiatric and medical professionals, or not.  After the very unfortunate. and disgusting, incident of the man, claiming to be a transwomen, who attacked women in a female prison, the authorities have had to tighten the rules.  Women's organisations have also, quite rightly, been pressurizing the authorities to clamp down on false trans claims.

This new wing is in fact just one way to tackle the issue of safety to women, which of course I myself are only too concerned about, whereby the trans individual can be kept away from biological women.  However, with only limited places we can only hope that the prison authorities ensure those allowed to enter such a wing are genuine transwomen.

For me personally, but I know questioned by many, a such a transwomen cannot have a penis and must have had the full gender reassignment process completed.  That way everyone knows that such a trans person who I have met a large number of, is genuine with the full standard history from childhood of this condition, fully documented by professionals.  Ideally that should have a Gender Recognition Certificate being granted government recognition with all name and gender details updated to who they really are, including a revised Birth Certificate.

I recognise that there are those trans individuals, especially female to male where cost and medical factors prohibit full transition, which can also be true for male to female people who cannot have the major reassignment treatment due to medical risks, cost factors, or long waiting lists.  They are often those at high suicide risk, who again I have met, but there are no easy answers for them.

Now, going back to the thread title "150 million for this" is a typical reaction by those who do not understand the underlying reasons for such an investment to keep highly vulnerable individuals safe, let alone the crucial point of keeping standard female inmates safe from them, and visa versa!  It is all too easy, as is the case here, for some to make a drama, or worse a subject for abuse and mocking, out of something that only involves a minority within society, that is a minority of trans individuals who resort to crime.  It is a very serious subject and has has some form of serious government response.  This is a positive for all involved, not the negative some would suggest.

[Lizzie Zoom]

It's taking a long time for cases to come to court now, for obvious reasons. Plenty of time to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex, and look forward to your en-suite room.

.......and it seems that this is all you need to do. Identify as.

Most keep their dick and balls. Sorry, I mean her dick and balls.

As usual talking with complete ignorance!!

Think yourself lucky you can just be yourself from birth and now just whatever you are.

You seem to struggle with anyone having a different opinion to your own.

Only when I am a specialist in a certain field and someone spouts off complete rubbish based on ignorance that is very hurtful to other human beings!

Raeturbo posted about a deeply unpleasant biological male predator (one who identifies as a woman) who sexually assaulted two biological women  whilst in a woman's prison. A situation that that is almost inevitable when you mix male predators with women, many of whom are vulnerable.



Regardless of your own circumstances you don't get to choose the words I, or anybody else, use.

How about some compassion for the women involved.

YES opti!   And that is the point of this new wing, and may there be others!

Please read my reply to Raeturbo

[Doctor Gollum]

Obviously not that fully assessed 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Obviously not that fully assessed 

As said, the authorities are now tightening up, as indeed they are, thank God, on women's safety generally although far more must be done on that one!

[Raeturbo]

There are many minorities in prison, I think 150 million on one group is favouritism hence my post.