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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

It's a pedestrian crossing painted a different colour.


Anyone who is run over on one, or a traditional one, by not checking the traffic first is no loss

You may not think this if they were your son or daughter.

But children are replaceable. By about 250 every minute.

You have a swinging brick for a heart, Nick.

[YZ250]

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As normal legal rules and regulations apply to such crossings, the painted zone makes no difference so the crossing IS completely legal.  It is just, yet again, you trying to make something again out of nothing to aid your crusade.

They don't though, as technically they don't exist. I actually agree with Opti that you can't suddenly start doing random things and expect drivers to be mind readers. We have orange strips of tarmac on our roundabout entrance/exit and it tells pedestrians approaching from one direction to look right and the other direction to look left. The end result is that nobody in a car stops to let anyone across ....ever. Completely pointless as technically they don't exist in legality so drivers just ignore them. We have speed humps in the town which pedestrians use as crossing points but I have a letter stating that they are not crossings, even though they have the bobbled paving at each end to assist the blind.
The trans crossing has got to be someone taking the piss, as who the hell would suggest a trans crossing to help trans people to cross over.
On another note, we have 20mph signs in the next village but they have a green circle around them, not red. The villagers questioned this and were told the legal speed limit is 30mph and the green limit could not be enforced until changed to a red circle. Again, something not legal but there all the same. So, while you're on your crusade of trans people, not everything is about them so I feel Opti has raised a valid point for road safety being pushed aside to pander to whoever.
Just to clarify, I'm not anti trans, anti gay or anti anything. I couldn't give a flying fig what anyone else does with their life, I'm just sick and fed up with us being accused of giving a flying fig. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

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As normal legal rules and regulations apply to such crossings, the painted zone makes no difference so the crossing IS completely legal.  It is just, yet again, you trying to make something again out of nothing to aid your crusade.

They don't though, as technically they don't exist. I actually agree with Opti that you can't suddenly start doing random things and expect drivers to be mind readers. We have orange strips of tarmac on our roundabout entrance/exit and it tells pedestrians approaching from one direction to look right and the other direction to look left. The end result is that nobody in a car stops to let anyone across ....ever. Completely pointless as technically they don't exist in legality so drivers just ignore them. We have speed humps in the town which pedestrians use as crossing points but I have a letter stating that they are not crossings, even though they have the bobbled paving at each end to assist the blind.
The trans crossing has got to be someone taking the piss, as who the hell would suggest a trans crossing to help trans people to cross over.
On another note, we have 20mph signs in the next village but they have a green circle around them, not red. The villagers questioned this and were told the legal speed limit is 30mph and the green limit could not be enforced until changed to a red circle. Again, something not legal but there all the same. So, while you're on your crusade of trans people, not everything is about them so I feel Opti has raised a valid point for road safety being pushed aside to pander to whoever.
Just to clarify, I'm not anti trans, anti gay or anti anything. I couldn't give a flying fig what anyone else does with their life, I'm just sick and fed up with us being accused of giving a flying fig. 

Yes.....we have crossings that everybody who drives a car is familiar with.

Why change it?......and why make divisive  political capital out of the change.

If anything should be non-political it's a f*ucking crossing, where everybody, including the LGBT community, are free and welcome to cross.

What you have here is a divisive political agenda being encouraged by a dysfunctional and overtly political council.

I imagine that most involved with this decision also believe a man can have a cervix.

[Lizzie Zoom]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

 No, Lizzie.

Designed by people with a political bent to be deliberately provocative. This is all about politics.

Believe it or not crossings already exist that can be used by everyone.

What next for terminally woke Camden council? A George Floyd mural crossing to demonstrate 'inclusion and equality' for black people who are stopped by the police?

Sounds crazy but it could happen.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

A Marcus Rashford MBE crossing can't be far away.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

I'm complaining about the political agenda attached to the colours on the road.

As I said before.......if anything should be non-political it should be a f*ucking crossing.


Keep politics out of our crossings.

[STEMO]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

I'm complaining about the political agenda attached to the colours on the road.

As I said before.......if anything should be non-political it should be a f*ucking crossing.


Keep politics out of our crossings.

Who are you actually complaining to? No one on here can do anything about it. So write to Camden council, or send an angry letter to The Times, or glue yourself to the crossing.
No? Thought not.

[STEMO]

I know. The department of transport, that should ruffle a few feathers 

[STEMO]

Anyway, I thought the LBGT colours were a rainbow? That's nothing like, it's dull and dreary. Not exactly a Banksy is it?

[Sir Tigger KC]

I don't really give a shit to be honest, but I do think that Camden Council probably have better things to do and more worthy things to spend taxpayers money on. 

Unless I'm wrong and everything is rosy in Camden, and the council is awash with spare cash. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

I'm complaining about the political agenda attached to the colours on the road.

As I said before.......if anything should be non-political it should be a f*ucking crossing.


Keep politics out of our crossings.

Who are you actually complaining to? No one on here can do anything about it. So write to Camden council, or send an angry letter to The Times, or glue yourself to the crossing.
No? Thought not.

So who are you going to complain to about women talking football?

No. Thought not.

[Lizzie Zoom]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

 No, Lizzie.

Designed by people with a political bent to be deliberately provocative. This is all about politics.

Believe it or not crossings already exist that can be used by everyone.

What next for terminally woke Camden council? A George Floyd mural crossing to demonstrate 'inclusion and equality' for black people who are stopped by the police?

Sounds crazy but it could happen.

The great majority of everyday people, without any strong political inclination, will think nothing of a bit of colour placed on a road.  In fact many, especially children, will love it.

As Steve suggests, if you are that bothered by it, go and complain to the authorities, even start a Parliamentary Petition - here is the link:

https://www.change.org/start-a-petition?utm_source=sem&utm_medium=google_ad&utm_campaign=&utm_term=government%20petitions|e|AG:128437756306|AD:555912787844&utm_content=&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-K2MBhC-ARIsAMtLKRtRmRGGd5qK0KeFFwv7eCc384aXbIcUXiXXGeFmpLOyb5hwk_8gPqcaAtByEALw_wcB

But, really who cares when there is so much for real people, away from keyboard warmongering to worry about.  But I suppose in your ivory tower you have not got the worries like hard working, with everyday normal, people have

Anyway, time for me to sign off of this ridiculous thread.  Carry on thinking what you like as a man of yesterday.  Life for me is too short to take this seriously.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I don't really give a shit to be honest, but I do think that Camden Council probably have better things to do and more worthy things to spend taxpayers money on. 

Unless I'm wrong and everything is rosy in Camden, and the council is awash with spare cash. 

Only probably.... 

Well. There are old people.....schools....police.....car crime.....rape......burglary....rubbish removal....

But I realise that in 2021 such trivia is less important than a new crossing that makes 0.1% of the population feel included.

[STEMO]

This is simply a colourful bit of fun at , as I stated before, a traffic light controlled pedestrian crossing which normally is just plain black tarmac with the usual metal studs.

It is a bit of art that does not impact on the safety of the crossing, which conforms to the Road Traffic Act in regards to such installations, and that is why it has been allowed.

So Opti, you are saying that drivers will be confused about passing a green traffic light, or stopping at a red one, and pedestrians will fail to notice the Red or Green Man light?  Well, if so, those drivers should not be on the road amongst the rest of us.

This colourful, and legal, installation is no worse, but probably much better, than a shared space traffic area in our town, where crossings, with one exception, are not generally controlled by lights, and just have a very faint change in the road surfaces finish where people walk across the road. If you are complaining about a bit of  colour on a dull road crossing, then try what we have got!  Even that though has proved to be safe for all users, pedestrians as well as motorists.

I'm complaining about the political agenda attached to the colours on the road.

As I said before.......if anything should be non-political it should be a f*ucking crossing.


Keep politics out of our crossings.

Who are you actually complaining to? No one on here can do anything about it. So write to Camden council, or send an angry letter to The Times, or glue yourself to the crossing.
No? Thought not.

So who are you going to complain to about women talking football?

No. Thought not.

I mentioned it because it affects me, personally. If a coloured crossing in Camden affects you, I'd like to hear why 
And why are you concerned about Camdens budget?