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[Rangie]

And…. It’s their job after all, some days/weeks years are worse than others.

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And if you don't like it what do you do ? You jack it in & move on it's allowed you know..👍

[Doctor Gollum]

And…. It’s their job after all, some days/weeks years are worse than others.

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And if you don't like it what do you do ? You jack it in & move on it's allowed you know..👍

That's fine and dandy, but those skiving off are the ones driving the decent staff away.

Covid is being used as an excuse to take the piss by alot of people, which makes it doubly hard for the decent people having to cover the shortfall.

[Raeturbo]

And…. It’s their job after all, some days/weeks years are worse than others.

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And if you don't like it what do you do ? You jack it in & move on it's allowed you know..👍

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              Quite... it’s everybody’s choice,....   when the going get tough......

[Doctor Gollum]

And…. It’s their job after all, some days/weeks years are worse than others.

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And if you don't like it what do you do ? You jack it in & move on it's allowed you know..👍

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              Quite... it’s everybody’s choice,....   when the going get tough...... the piss takers pull sickies and then file bogus constructive dismissal claims when they eventually return to work and find that all the decent people aren't there to cover for them...

Fixed.

[Rangie]

And…. It’s their job after all, some days/weeks years are worse than others.

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And if you don't like it what do you do ? You jack it in & move on it's allowed you know..👍

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              Quite... it’s everybody’s choice,....   when the going get tough......

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Exactly the NHS workers are not superhuman they are not immune to the virus, they've seen firsthand what it can do so they decide to leave and find something better paid /safer good luck to them & if they unfortunately contract the virus they've no choice but to isolate etc

[Rangie]

The same is happening in HMPS staff are not considered as important as prisoners and social distancing is not enforced, I know four colleagues who have left and are now train drivers better paid & safer than working in a crowded prison it's their choice it's as simple as that.

[TheBoy]

I'm sure we've all pulled a sicky at some stage in our career.  Used to be common at our place in the early 90s, as despite having a reasonably generous leave allowance - a hangover from the civil service days - actually being allowed to take leave was impossible, as only about 5 people in our region (East Anglia, Bedford, Oxford, Reading etc) were allowed off on a given day, and simple maths meant that it was impossible for everyone in the region to take even the majority of their leave.


So, "vomiting and fatigue" was frequently written on my self sick notes...   ...although my boss never really cottoned on that meant sick and tired.

[TheBoy]

And, from experience, you can enthuse and drive your staff at 100% for short periods - there needs to be a light at the end of a short tunnel to do so.

A good manager or team leader can drive 100% to about 80%, 100% of the time. After that, they are burnt out after a while. Usually spotted subtly by an increase in sick, or more obviously by underpants on head, Wibble etc.

The NHS are used to being at breaking point every winter, but get the breather they need in less busy months.  The last 2 years, they have been beyond breaking point in the winter, and with further peaks throughout the year lessened only by full lockdowns.  So its expected for many of them to be burned out, even if its their vocation.  Those that aren't, are likely mentally weary as well.


Whilst I think the NHS is dreadfully inefficient, disorganised, irreparably broken and mostly useless, that's not to say that the low paid, front line staff are there to deal with those selfish individuals who are not prepared to take basic, simple steps to reduce the chances of them having to be admitted into hospitals with the chinky sniffle.

[Rangie]

Don't think this the same as " pulling a sickie" people are revaluating their life choices why put your health at risk if you can change career  or retire completely? They're looking after number 1 & certainly don't blame them .

[TheBoy]

Don't think this the same as " pulling a sickie" people are revaluating their life choices why put your health at risk if you can change career  or retire completely? They're looking after number 1 & certainly don't blame them .

I think some of the groans here were due to people happily taken the advice to self isolate and not attend work when they have been pinged or tested positive. Rather than those who have discovered that looking after the disbelievers for a pittance is no longer their future career.

[Rangie]

Don't think this the same as " pulling a sickie" people are revaluating their life choices why put your health at risk if you can change career  or retire completely? They're looking after number 1 & certainly don't blame them .

I think some of the groans here were due to people happily taken the advice to self isolate and not attend work when they have been pinged or tested positive. Rather than those who have discovered that looking after the disbelievers for a pittance is no longer their future career.

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Absolutely agree why work for a pittance if you're not appreciated and underpaid , and if it's true that the majority of idiots falling ill are the unvaccinated they made their choice as well.

[Doctor Gollum]

Don't think this the same as " pulling a sickie" people are revaluating their life choices why put your health at risk if you can change career  or retire completely? They're looking after number 1 & certainly don't blame them .

I think some of the groans here were due to people happily taken the advice to self isolate and not attend work when they have been pinged or tested positive.

This. The people having to pick up the slack, very quickly fall into the second part...

Rather than those who have discovered that looking after the disbelievers for a pittance is no longer their future career.

I suspect that this group is falling down from the lack of colleague and management support. I don't recall ever hearing about them crying at the futility of looking after drug addicts or alcoholics.

The job market in the US has been turned on its head by people quitting in response to compulsory vaccinations as a condition of employment. This is an issue here, but less so because although the vaccine is voluntary, most people have had it.

[TheBoy]

Are you saying, DG, that people who have been pinged or tested positive should ignore it, and carry on as normal, rather than get checked and isolate as appropriate .


As to the US, that's likely (according to my colonel colleagues), your average sherman gets all their knowledge from arsebook etc, and believe it as 100% fact, and they don't want behavioural changing nanobots running around inside them like a Michael Crichton novel....

[TheBoy]

And having spent nearly 10 years working for a major US computer firm in the not too distant past, I'm struggling to find fault in that viewpoint from some of my colleagues

[STEMO]

DG has taken to many red pills:

The Matrix's real-world legacy - from red pill incels to conspiracies and deepfakes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57572152