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[dave the builder]

Exactly the case with my sky box.

you can choose the power saving options on SKY HD boxes 

and NOW TV boxes

and YOUVIEW boxes

your BETAMAX video recorder / player maybe not Uncle Stemo 

No need. Switch off at the mains turns it off, no power being used. I think power saving settings merely power down after a certain period of time, thus putting it into standby, when it's still using around 25 Watts.

How very "climate friendly / green" of you

I'll keep mine always ON to balance the power you save with the power i use     

[STEMO]

Exactly the case with my sky box.

you can choose the power saving options on SKY HD boxes 

and NOW TV boxes

and YOUVIEW boxes

your BETAMAX video recorder / player maybe not Uncle Stemo 

No need. Switch off at the mains turns it off, no power being used. I think power saving settings merely power down after a certain period of time, thus putting it into standby, when it's still using around 25 Watts.

How very "climate friendly / green" of you

I'll keep mine always ON to balance the power you save with the power i use     

I'm not green, just tight.

[dave the builder]

Exactly the case with my sky box.

you can choose the power saving options on SKY HD boxes 

and NOW TV boxes

and YOUVIEW boxes

your BETAMAX video recorder / player maybe not Uncle Stemo 

No need. Switch off at the mains turns it off, no power being used. I think power saving settings merely power down after a certain period of time, thus putting it into standby, when it's still using around 25 Watts.

How very "climate friendly / green" of you

I'll keep mine always ON to balance the power you save with the power i use     

I'm not green, just tight.

I'm very tight too

but the cost involved in keeping it on VS not having to explain how to turn the TV ,SKY , NOW TV etc back on is a saving

and keeping the planet warm too
I live on top of a hill so not worried about flooding due to some ice caps melting 
there's some penguins down the road at the zoo if i felt the need to look at one 

[TheBoy]

Exactly the case with my sky box.

you can choose the power saving options on SKY HD boxes 

and NOW TV boxes

and YOUVIEW boxes

your BETAMAX video recorder / player maybe not Uncle Stemo 

The YouView ones don't support a proper standby. Not sure about NowTV, as not interested in pure streaming devices.

[TheBoy]

I'm very tight too

but the cost involved in keeping it on VS not having to explain how to turn the TV ,SKY , NOW TV etc back on is a saving

and keeping the planet warm too
I live on top of a hill so not worried about flooding due to some ice caps melting 
there's some penguins down the road at the zoo if i felt the need to look at one 

I too live on the top of a hill, and try to create as much rubbish as possible by not recycling, so raise land levels.  And care not about the environment, and will never I've up cows. Ever.

But I am tight when it comes to paying energy companies, and the £2.5k I pay Gritish Bas, which is estimated to go up to approaching £4k in the Spring, is already way too much.  So even 30W on 24/7 needs to be looked at....

...thats in addition to potential fire risks from cheap Chinky devices being left on.  Not sure why fire is always at the back of my mind...

[dave the builder]

I'm very tight too

but the cost involved in keeping it on VS not having to explain how to turn the TV ,SKY , NOW TV etc back on is a saving

and keeping the planet warm too
I live on top of a hill so not worried about flooding due to some ice caps melting 
there's some penguins down the road at the zoo if i felt the need to look at one 

I too live on the top of a hill, and try to create as much rubbish as possible by not recycling, so raise land levels.  And care not about the environment, and will never I've up cows. Ever.

But I am tight when it comes to paying energy companies, and the £2.5k I pay Gritish Bas, which is estimated to go up to approaching £4k in the Spring, is already way too much.  So even 30W on 24/7 needs to be looked at....

...thats in addition to potential fire risks from cheap Chinky devices being left on.  Not sure why fire is always at the back of my mind...

Why not generate your own electricary then

just amass all the combustibles, aerosols,  etc   in the garage until you have enough to power a furnace to run a turbine 

[STEMO]

I'm very tight too

but the cost involved in keeping it on VS not having to explain how to turn the TV ,SKY , NOW TV etc back on is a saving

and keeping the planet warm too
I live on top of a hill so not worried about flooding due to some ice caps melting 
there's some penguins down the road at the zoo if i felt the need to look at one 

I too live on the top of a hill, and try to create as much rubbish as possible by not recycling, so raise land levels.  And care not about the environment, and will never I've up cows. Ever.

But I am tight when it comes to paying energy companies, and the £2.5k I pay Gritish Bas, which is estimated to go up to approaching £4k in the Spring, is already way too much.  So even 30W on 24/7 needs to be looked at....

...thats in addition to potential fire risks from cheap Chinky devices being left on.  Not sure why fire is always at the back of my mind...

I've just had aHarry Ramsdens cow pie. Lovely.

[Andy B]

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By standby, I mean <1W power, not the old scheme Humax used to use which effectively kept the device on all the time at 20-40W (which isn't really standby).

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How would I measure it? My Humax turns on again quite quickly .... a few seconds.

So its not actually going off in the case of Humax - it simply changes the LED colour, and drops the signal telling the TV its on from the HDMI port.  Power consumption still remains about the same as if you didn't turn it off.  Or certainly thats the case with most Humax boxes, including the latest Aura box.

Exactly the case with my sky box.

My new LG telly has an energy saving setting .... ie it switches itself off after so long of inactivity, but because channel changing & volume etc is done via the a/v box it'd tell us it was about to switch off. I found the setting to tell it not to - eventually after a pointer from YouTube 

[STEMO]

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By standby, I mean <1W power, not the old scheme Humax used to use which effectively kept the device on all the time at 20-40W (which isn't really standby).

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How would I measure it? My Humax turns on again quite quickly .... a few seconds.

So its not actually going off in the case of Humax - it simply changes the LED colour, and drops the signal telling the TV its on from the HDMI port.  Power consumption still remains about the same as if you didn't turn it off.  Or certainly thats the case with most Humax boxes, including the latest Aura box.

Exactly the case with my sky box.

My new LG telly has an energy saving setting .... ie it switches itself off after so long of inactivity, but because channel changing & volume etc is done via the a/v box it'd tell us it was about to switch off. I found the setting to tell it not to - eventually after a pointer from YouTube 

All of our Samsungs have done that, nannying bastards 

[TheBoy]

My new LG telly has an energy saving setting .... ie it switches itself off after so long of inactivity, but because channel changing & volume etc is done via the a/v box it'd tell us it was about to switch off. I found the setting to tell it not to - eventually after a pointer from YouTube 

My Samsungs do that, and being an avid Media Center user, the TV just gets set to HDMI1.

Fortunately, because its rare I sit in front of a TV for 4 hours, its rarely a problem.  I had found a way to disable it previously, but have since factory reset it due to it being sluggish, and CBA to look again

[Andy B]

My new LG telly has an energy saving setting .... ie it switches itself off after so long of inactivity, but because channel changing & volume etc is done via the a/v box it'd tell us it was about to switch off. I found the setting to tell it not to - eventually after a pointer from YouTube 

My Samsungs do that, and being an avid Media Center user, the TV just gets set to HDMI1.

Fortunately, because its rare I sit in front of a TV for 4 hours, its rarely a problem.  I had found a way to disable it previously, but have since factory reset it due to it being sluggish, and CBA to look again

The Samsung that it replaced was too old for such electrickery 
The a/v box now changes the HDMI1 to something else now when you go onto Netflixs/etc

[LC0112G]

I've fixed a few TV's/PVR's for friends and family. It's almost always the power supplies that pack in - usually the diodes in the switch modes PSU's. Things with external power bricks aren't worth fixing - just replace the brick. But TV's more often have a built in mains switch mode supply

IMV turning small electrical/electronic devices on and off to save electricity is false economy. Turning stuff on is usually when the PSU's have the greatest loads put on them, as they charge all the internal smoothing capacitors. This strain is when the PSU is most likely to fail. Once the TV is up and running the load on the PSU is fairly constant - there are fewer surge loads. I can't remember the last time something went 'pop' whilst it was in normal use. I can remember lots of things that went 'pop' as I tried to turn them on.

I haven't checked what my setup draws (Humax Freeview PVR + generic 42" flat screen telly), but I doubt it's anything like 20W. Even if it is, running a 20W load for 24 hours costs about 9.5 pence - so less than £35 a year. I think my PVR box was around £100, and the TV about £300. I doubt either would last more than a few years if they were turned on and off 365 times per year.

So £35 for ever, or £300+ every few years to replace the TV because some fool has been turning it on and off every night to "save money". Hmmm.

[STEMO]

My cheapo Samsung 40" tv is a bout 5 years old and gets turned off and on about 4 times daily. That's means the sky box does too. Both still working fine and, by your reckoning, and if they're off 50% of the time, I'm at least £70 up.

[TheBoy]

My cheapo Samsung 40" tv is a bout 5 years old

My 48" is about the same, though suspect I'll have to replace it soon.  I'm guessing mine is one of the Samsung's of the era that used those shit LG panels, judging by all the purple blotches.

Given the cost of the backlight LEDs, its probably not worth changing multiple strips (not sure now many strips are on mine, but I reckon I have at least 3 LEDs across different strips that are shining purple instead of white.

[Andy B]

My cheapo Samsung 40" tv is a bout 5 years old

My 48" is about the same, though suspect I'll have to replace it soon.  I'm guessing mine is one of the Samsung's of the era that used those shit LG panels, judging by all the purple blotches.

Given the cost of the backlight LEDs, its probably not worth changing multiple strips (not sure now many strips are on mine, but I reckon I have at least 3 LEDs across different strips that are shining purple instead of white.

My 44"?? Samsung just started to show black lines towards the bottom of the screen about 6" long ... a day or two later 1 became 3 .... I never even considered repairing it