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[YZ250]

It’s all 'dangle berries' and everybody knows it….  But there’s easy money to be made

When I started working for a certain car manufacturer in the early 80’s there was already an EV in the pipeline. It was designed to test if a production electric car would work, partly due to the U.S. state of California's demand that 2% of new cars sold in the state be zero emission. In the late 80’s that EV became a reality, and was trialled on public roads in the early 90’s. It did 155 miles on a two hour rapid charge but it’s success as a fully electric vehicle was bought to a halt as some of them caught fire when charging. 
Fast forward to 2020, the batteries have changed but the range is similar on many various brands of EV’s, and various brands still catch fire when charging.

[dave the builder]

When I started working for a certain car manufacturer in the early 80’s there was already an EV in the pipeline. It was designed to test if a production electric car would work, partly due to the U.S. state of California's demand that 2% of new cars sold in the state be zero emission. In the late 80’s that EV became a reality, and was trialled on public roads in the early 90’s. It did 155 miles on a two hour rapid charge but it’s success as a fully electric vehicle was bought to a halt as some of them caught fire when charging. 
Fast forward to 2020, the batteries have changed but the range is similar on many of them, and they still catch fire when charging.

Great fire of London II sounds good to me. 

So, If we add Uncle Stemo's idea to Mr YZ250's battery technology and make sure all the corrupt politicians and tree huggers are in London at the time  this could work out OK 

OK , there would be some polution  but a bit more UK based "Global warming" could also cut heating bills 

[Doctor Gollum]

How the hell are are the people who live in blocks of flats going to charge their EV,s ?
Similar story for the millions of people who only have parking on the road outside their homes - if they are lucky.
There will eventually be charging stations, but they need to make a profit so it wont be that cheap, if you can find one when you need one, and can then access one of the charging points for as long as you need to.
It isnt possible to have the required infrastructure for several decades at least.
A pipedream indeed. Unless the plan is actually to force most people away from private vehicle ownership - which is entirely possible.

People living in flats can't afford EVs, so there's that

[STEMO]

How the hell are are the people who live in blocks of flats going to charge their EV,s ?
Similar story for the millions of people who only have parking on the road outside their homes - if they are lucky.
There will eventually be charging stations, but they need to make a profit so it wont be that cheap, if you can find one when you need one, and can then access one of the charging points for as long as you need to.
It isnt possible to have the required infrastructure for several decades at least.
A pipedream indeed. Unless the plan is actually to force most people away from private vehicle ownership - which is entirely possible.

People living in flats can't afford EVs, so there's that

Saw a studio flat in London on telly today. In need of renovation, £400,000

[Doctor Gollum]

I think the biggest laugh from Mr Khan is his scrappage scheme I believe it's £2,000 " help" to purchase an EV that won't even be enough to buy a light cluster as TB will probably agree. Remember the London riots not so long ago, I don't think we've seen anything yet August 2023 bring it on , read today that if a non payment of the £12.50 is issued to a motorist the penalty is £180  all seems very fair to me..😂

And it's only available to residents of the affected boroughs, not the thousands who drive to work at places like Heathrow. And do so because public transport is unreliable or non existent at the times they need to be at work.

[Sir Tigger KC]

How the hell are are the people who live in blocks of flats going to charge their EV,s ?
Similar story for the millions of people who only have parking on the road outside their homes - if they are lucky.
There will eventually be charging stations, but they need to make a profit so it wont be that cheap, if you can find one when you need one, and can then access one of the charging points for as long as you need to.
It isnt possible to have the required infrastructure for several decades at least.
A pipedream indeed. Unless the plan is actually to force most people away from private vehicle ownership - which is entirely possible.

People living in flats can't afford EVs, so there's that

Saw a studio flat in London on telly today. In need of renovation, £400,000

That's fine as it will be in a '15 minute zone' where everything you need will be a short walk away and you'll be able to get a permit if you have a good reason to go out of your zone. 

So need for a car of any description. 

[ronnyd]

It’s all 'dangle berries' and everybody knows it….  But there’s easy money to be made

When I started working for a certain car manufacturer in the early 80’s there was already an EV in the pipeline. It was designed to test if a production electric car would work, partly due to the U.S. state of California's demand that 2% of new cars sold in the state be zero emission. In the late 80’s that EV became a reality, and was trialled on public roads in the early 90’s. It did 155 miles on a two hour rapid charge but it’s success as a fully electric vehicle was bought to a halt as some of them caught fire when charging. 
Fast forward to 2020, the batteries have changed but the range is similar on many various brands of EV’s, and various brands still catch fire when charging.

Who built them? Boeing?

[Doctor Gollum]

It’s all 'dangle berries' and everybody knows it….  But there’s easy money to be made

When I started working for a certain car manufacturer in the early 80’s there was already an EV in the pipeline. It was designed to test if a production electric car would work, partly due to the U.S. state of California's demand that 2% of new cars sold in the state be zero emission. In the late 80’s that EV became a reality, and was trialled on public roads in the early 90’s. It did 155 miles on a two hour rapid charge but it’s success as a fully electric vehicle was bought to a halt as some of them caught fire when charging. 
Fast forward to 2020, the batteries have changed but the range is similar on many various brands of EV’s, and various brands still catch fire when charging.

Who built them? Boeing?

GM I suspect, called the EV1. They quietly brought almost all of them back and crushed the lot.

[YZ250]

It’s all 'dangle berries' and everybody knows it….  But there’s easy money to be made

When I started working for a certain car manufacturer in the early 80’s there was already an EV in the pipeline. It was designed to test if a production electric car would work, partly due to the U.S. state of California's demand that 2% of new cars sold in the state be zero emission. In the late 80’s that EV became a reality, and was trialled on public roads in the early 90’s. It did 155 miles on a two hour rapid charge but it’s success as a fully electric vehicle was bought to a halt as some of them caught fire when charging. 
Fast forward to 2020, the batteries have changed but the range is similar on many various brands of EV’s, and various brands still catch fire when charging.

Who built them? Boeing?

GM I suspect, called the EV1. They quietly brought almost all of them back and crushed the lot.

It was German.    It seems an awful lot of EV’s, Tesla included, go up in flames in normal use and not necessarily when on charge.    Must be scary losing your electrics and having to smash your way out. 

[countrywoman]

Ford have stopped making the F150 pickup due to battery fires.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Ford have stopped making the F150 pickup due to battery fires.

https://twitter.com/RileyMooreWV/status/1626956027160629248

[Doctor Gollum]

Ford have sabotaged their own commercial EV efforts in order to maximise their investment in Rivian, a commercial EV company that they co own with Amazon.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

How the hell are are the people who live in blocks of flats going to charge their EV,s ?
Similar story for the millions of people who only have parking on the road outside their homes - if they are lucky.
There will eventually be charging stations, but they need to make a profit so it wont be that cheap, if you can find one when you need one, and can then access one of the charging points for as long as you need to.
It isnt possible to have the required infrastructure for several decades at least.
A pipedream indeed. Unless the plan is actually to force most people away from private vehicle ownership - which is entirely possible.

People living in flats can't afford EVs, so there's that

Saw a studio flat in London on telly today. In need of renovation, £400,000

Cooker and crapper in the same room. Nice and cosy.

[Kevin Wood]

Cooker and crapper in the same room. Nice and cosy.

Ok for the caravanners amongst us.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Cooker and crapper in the same room. Nice and cosy.

Ok for the caravanners amongst us.

Is cooking and crapping at the same time a thing amongst tin tent lovers?....