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Re: Lap top help
« Reply #15 on: 11 September 2008, 19:46:29 »

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Strange question but does the fan work ?

I had my Acer laptop in to repair a broken firewire socket and unknown to me they had forgotten to reconnect the fan, the laptop was working fine till i tried to do a reinstall and the laptop would just stop midway without any reason.  Tried so many times without sucess.

Only later when I'd reconnected the fan would it reinstall properly..

Just my 2 pence worth...

Have an acer laptop in at work at the min, fan has died, and the bottom plastics have actually melted  :o The machine is now dead  :(
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« Reply #16 on: 11 September 2008, 20:08:29 »

Have swopped Ram sticks individually with known working one, same things occurred.

The 'files won't copy' problem is sort of random, but with a pattern.  It doesn't seem to like four or five files like the one mentioned above so they appear nine times out of ten installs (yeah I've done that many .., a day lol.., but random one's appear too.  The pattern is that they appear more and more frequently the further on the install goes.  It does suggest to me that the HD is failing but yes, I will check the fan lol. It could simply be overheating.

Thank u so very much for all your suggestions, I shall certainly follow up on many of the checks. Problem is I am crap with DOS and there's no floppy drive (what so and so decided floppies weren't nec. any more lol).
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Re: Lap top help
« Reply #17 on: 11 September 2008, 20:14:04 »

mmh, fan is stopping and starting.., it doesn't just run constantly
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« Reply #18 on: 11 September 2008, 20:17:53 »

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Have swopped Ram sticks individually with known working one, same things occurred.

The 'files won't copy' problem is sort of random, but with a pattern.  It doesn't seem to like four or five files like the one mentioned above so they appear nine times out of ten installs (yeah I've done that many .., a day lol.., but random one's appear too.  The pattern is that they appear more and more frequently the further on the install goes.  It does suggest to me that the HD is failing but yes, I will check the fan lol. It could simply be overheating.

Thank u so very much for all your suggestions, I shall certainly follow up on many of the checks. Problem is I am crap with DOS and there's no floppy drive (what so and so decided floppies weren't nec. any more lol).

you can take out The HD and connect to a desktop to have detailed tests..This will lead you to one point..if the result of test is OK even if some sectors are bad during format of HD these must be marked and not used ..so still I'm suspicious about board ( controller error very rare)

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« Reply #19 on: 11 September 2008, 20:21:21 »

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Have swopped Ram sticks individually with known working one, same things occurred.

The 'files won't copy' problem is sort of random, but with a pattern.  It doesn't seem to like four or five files like the one mentioned above so they appear nine times out of ten installs (yeah I've done that many .., a day lol.., but random one's appear too.  The pattern is that they appear more and more frequently the further on the install goes.  It does suggest to me that the HD is failing but yes, I will check the fan lol. It could simply be overheating.

Thank u so very much for all your suggestions, I shall certainly follow up on many of the checks. Problem is I am crap with DOS and there's no floppy drive (what so and so decided floppies weren't nec. any more lol).

your problem reminded me a problem years ago I experiemented..

Was an amd board with a faulty cache (on board)..

Still my money is on the board but to be sure you need to test the HD..
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« Reply #20 on: 11 September 2008, 21:22:59 »

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Have swopped Ram sticks individually with known working one, same things occurred.

The 'files won't copy' problem is sort of random, but with a pattern.  It doesn't seem to like four or five files like the one mentioned above so they appear nine times out of ten installs (yeah I've done that many .., a day lol.., but random one's appear too.  The pattern is that they appear more and more frequently the further on the install goes.  It does suggest to me that the HD is failing but yes, I will check the fan lol. It could simply be overheating.

Thank u so very much for all your suggestions, I shall certainly follow up on many of the checks. Problem is I am crap with DOS and there's no floppy drive (what so and so decided floppies weren't nec. any more lol).

your problem reminded me a problem years ago I experiemented..

Was an amd board with a faulty cache (on board)..

Still my money is on the board but to be sure you need to test the HD..
My money is still on the RAM... See it every other week at work!

If it aint that, then it could be a dead motherboard (hope it aint for your sake!)

Does the HDD sound normal? It doesn't start clunking before it errors?

Again...bring it to the meet... I will bring some test HDD's and Ram  down if you want!  :)
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« Reply #21 on: 11 September 2008, 21:49:23 »

Oops I've just thought.., we did swap out the HD.., but only for a small 6Gb one.., and it still did the same thing.

Please I don't want it to be the mobo lol.

The person i bought it off says it ran linux fine right up until last week.  Can't understand that, if she's telling the truth of course.  She was quite annoyed cause i left her negative feedback tho lol (very rare for me to do but I suspects I'm gonna be out of luck with this one)
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« Reply #22 on: 11 September 2008, 21:55:15 »

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Oops I've just thought.., we did swap out the HD.., but only for a small 6Gb one.., and it still did the same thing.

Please I don't want it to be the mobo lol.

The person i bought it off says it ran linux fine right up until last week.  Can't understand that, if she's telling the truth of course.  She was quite annoyed cause i left her negative feedback tho lol (very rare for me to do but I suspects I'm gonna be out of luck with this one)

linux :-? will not behave different under a faulty hw setup..

thats another crap to hide the problem and mislead you..

ps: did you check the ram timings are ok..you can do this mostly by loading default or slow bios parameters..
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« Reply #23 on: 11 September 2008, 21:59:06 »

ok, as a last resort, if what the previous owner said about it being ok on Linux is right.., I could try linux.., but it would have to be a very GUI linux cause I ain't got a clue with commands and so on.

Can anyone recommend a version of Linux that a person who is only used to Vista/XP could use reasonably easily?  And give me a link as to how on earth u install it lol.
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« Reply #24 on: 11 September 2008, 22:00:09 »

loaded default ram timings
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Re: Lap top help
« Reply #25 on: 11 September 2008, 22:00:40 »

I fixed one this week with almost the same problem. It loaded Knoppix, but would consistantly fall over when trying to load XP, with damaged file or something. Eventually discovered the processor was duff, not helped by inadequate (none!) heatsink compund. That was a Dell Insp 1300, with celery M, 1.6G/1M/400.

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« Reply #26 on: 11 September 2008, 22:01:27 »

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ok, as a last resort, if what the previous owner said about it being ok on Linux is right.., I could try linux.., but it would have to be a very GUI linux cause I ain't got a clue with commands and so on.

Can anyone recommend a version of Linux that a person who is only used to Vista/XP could use reasonably easily?  And give me a link as to how on earth u install it lol.
Pretty much any of the current crop.  Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian and so on all have the same window managers.
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« Reply #27 on: 11 September 2008, 22:02:29 »

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ok, as a last resort, if what the previous owner said about it being ok on Linux is right.., I could try linux.., but it would have to be a very GUI linux cause I ain't got a clue with commands and so on.

Can anyone recommend a version of Linux that a person who is only used to Vista/XP could use reasonably easily?  And give me a link as to how on earth u install it lol.

trust me nothing will change..additionally linux kernel is more sensible..
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« Reply #28 on: 11 September 2008, 22:14:16 »

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ok, as a last resort, if what the previous owner said about it being ok on Linux is right.., I could try linux.., but it would have to be a very GUI linux cause I ain't got a clue with commands and so on.

Can anyone recommend a version of Linux that a person who is only used to Vista/XP could use reasonably easily?  And give me a link as to how on earth u install it lol.

trust me nothing will change..additionally linux kernel is more sensible..

If it has a hardware problem, choice of OS may make it manifest itself differently, but you will still be left with a problem. :-/

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« Reply #29 on: 11 September 2008, 22:22:31 »

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I fixed one this week with almost the same problem. It loaded Knoppix, but would consistantly fall over when trying to load XP, with damaged file or something. Eventually discovered the processor was duff, not helped by inadequate (none!) heatsink compund. That was a Dell Insp 1300, with celery M, 1.6G/1M/400.

Ken

this is worth trying if you can reach the cpu
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