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[Dusty]

I hate enclosed spaces and the thought of the Channel Tunnel fills me with horror. I'd take the ferry anyday.

[Marks DTM Calib]

The media have had it in for our greatest piece of engineering in recent history since the day it was opened.....mainly I suspect because they are desperate to see major fires so they can say 'I told you so'. Reality is that its been very reliable and any very rare incidents that occur are dealt with safely and effectively.

Everybody also conveniently forgets the large number of times the ferries have not been operating due to the bloody french striking and blockading the ports!


I would use the tunnel quite happily......

[TheBoy]

The media have had it in for our greatest piece of engineering in recent history since the day it was opened.....mainly I suspect because they are desperate to see major fires so they can say 'I told you so'. Reality is that its been very reliable and any very rare incidents that occur are dealt with safely and effectively.

Everybody also conveniently forgets the large number of times the ferries have not been operating due to the bloody french striking and blockading the ports!


I would use the tunnel quite happily......

Voice of reason at last!  How many times do we hear the travel bulletins saying about Operation Stack on M20.  And how often is it due to the Tunnel?

[philhoward]

The media have had it in for our greatest piece of engineering in recent history since the day it was opened.....mainly I suspect because they are desperate to see major fires so they can say 'I told you so'. Reality is that its been very reliable and any very rare incidents that occur are dealt with safely and effectively.

Everybody also conveniently forgets the large number of times the ferries have not been operating due to the bloody french striking and blockading the ports!


I would use the tunnel quite happily......

Voice of reason at last!  How many times do we hear the travel bulletins saying about Operation Stack on M20.  And how often is it due to the Tunnel?

And even then, its due to the French being on strike..

I used to take the tunnel, when driving Brum to Lyon (in a day), but started to take the ferry purely because i wanted a break!

You can't smoke on the tunnel - but you can on the ferry!

[theolodian]

The media have had it in for our greatest piece of engineering in recent history since the day it was opened.....mainly I suspect because they are desperate to see major fires so they can say 'I told you so'. Reality is that its been very reliable and any very rare incidents that occur are dealt with safely and effectively.

Everybody also conveniently forgets the large number of times the ferries have not been operating due to the bloody french striking and blockading the ports!


I would use the tunnel quite happily......

Voice of reason at last!  How many times do we hear the travel bulletins saying about Operation Stack on M20.  And how often is it due to the Tunnel?

And even then, its due to the French being on strike..

I used to take the tunnel, when driving Brum to Lyon (in a day), but started to take the ferry purely because i wanted a break!

You can't smoke on the tunnel - but you can on the ferry!

A valid if not exactly safety related reason!  

[TheBoy]

The media have had it in for our greatest piece of engineering in recent history since the day it was opened.....mainly I suspect because they are desperate to see major fires so they can say 'I told you so'. Reality is that its been very reliable and any very rare incidents that occur are dealt with safely and effectively.

Everybody also conveniently forgets the large number of times the ferries have not been operating due to the bloody french striking and blockading the ports!


I would use the tunnel quite happily......

Voice of reason at last!  How many times do we hear the travel bulletins saying about Operation Stack on M20.  And how often is it due to the Tunnel?

And even then, its due to the French being on strike..

I used to take the tunnel, when driving Brum to Lyon (in a day), but started to take the ferry purely because i wanted a break!

You can't smoke on the tunnel - but you can on the ferry!

Or, for Lyon or further South, I break the journey into 3 - first break, train terminal.  You can have a fag then , and breakkie.  Next break, about halfway down France, so Dijon area for a bit to eat around lunchtime, arriving South Coast late afternoon/early evening.

[Varche]

Am I the only person to have asked " what was the lorry carrying, do loads get vetted and how easy would it be for a terrorist to target the tunnel ?"

In my view the tunnel would have to be in the top ten worldwide targets.

There are quite advanced plans for a tunnel from Africa to Southern Spain quite near Gibraltar.

varche

[Kevin Wood]

If we had any kind of goods rail infrastructure we wouldn't be engaged in the farcical practice of loading lorries onto trains straight off the M20 with hot engines. We'd be sending trains full of containers through instead.

When I went through the Mont Blanc tunnel last year there was an area where they were checking lorries for hot spots with infra-red cameras, and enforcing a cool-off period before entering the tunnel. Not sure what safeguards are in place at the channel tunnel.

Kevin

[philhoward]

If we had any kind of goods rail infrastructure we wouldn't be engaged in the farcical practice of loading lorries onto trains straight off the M20 with hot engines. We'd be sending trains full of containers through instead.

When I went through the Mont Blanc tunnel last year there was an area where they were checking lorries for hot spots with infra-red cameras, and enforcing a cool-off period before entering the tunnel. Not sure what safeguards are in place at the channel tunnel.

Kevin
 

CO2 sniffer for illegal immigrants at a guess...

I thought that anyone taking goods had to declare what they were - if this stuff wasn't a prohibited one, why not?  It is WAS and they still let it on, then someone needs stringing up...

[Richie London]

I hate enclosed spaces and the thought of the Channel Tunnel fills me with horror. I'd take the ferry anyday.

i love the ferry, can sit and get hammered looking out the window, so relaxing  

[LaserLance]

If we had any kind of goods rail infrastructure we wouldn't be engaged in the farcical practice of loading lorries onto trains straight off the M20 with hot engines. We'd be sending trains full of containers through instead.

When I went through the Mont Blanc tunnel last year there was an area where they were checking lorries for hot spots with infra-red cameras, and enforcing a cool-off period before entering the tunnel. Not sure what safeguards are in place at the channel tunnel.

Kevin

CO2 sniffer for illegal immigrants at a guess...

I thought that anyone taking goods had to declare what they were - if this stuff wasn't a prohibited one, why not?  It is WAS and they still let it on, then someone needs stringing up...
On english side they dont use co2 sniffers they have a x-ray machine you drive into which takes 2 trucks at a time and they have 2 machines side by side . Also the guys that load you are supposed to check if you leave a fridge are nite heater on ,you get turfed out of the little bus and told to switch it off if left on . its not hot engines that seem to cause all the problems its overhot brakes or even worse wheel bearings which set off all the sensors along the track . And concerning mont blanc i now they are stricht  up there no refrigderated trucks even empty ones ,its a exsorbatent price to go through with one as you need a escort to take on through ,they all via the Frejus tunnel whichs goes into Turin. Must admit i never did like the blanc to damn narrow but it saved us 45 minute a trip when going down to milan (which i did every week for 5 years ) , and when i had a serous accident in it when a van driver piled into back of me trailer and killed himself doing it i got a bit spooky when cars used sit on your back bumper id slow down even more .

[LaserLance]

sorry that last post was a bit nerfed up will have learn how to edit post better