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Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« on: 23 August 2023, 18:21:15 »
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #1 on: 23 August 2023, 18:24:43 »
He was far too important to be just falling out of a window.
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #2 on: 23 August 2023, 19:02:32 »
Shame 100 odd other people had to be shot down with him.  But he must haver known he could never get on a plane over Ruski land again....


...or is it all a big ploy to allow Putin to save face, but still have his military problem solver...
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #3 on: 23 August 2023, 19:11:21 »
You presume they weren't on the same list...

Besides, given the deteriorating state of the Aeroflot fleet, it could have been an opportunist propaganda coincidence.
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #4 on: 23 August 2023, 19:28:15 »
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 23 August 2023, 19:11:21
You presume they weren't on the same list...

Besides, given the deteriorating state of the Aeroflot fleet, it could have been an opportunist propaganda coincidence.

....and it's common for the captain to neck a bottle and half of Russian vodka before takeoff. It's tradition. :D
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #5 on: 23 August 2023, 20:05:56 »
No problem for them though, They'll just find another absolute barsteward to succeed him.
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #6 on: 23 August 2023, 20:33:45 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 23 August 2023, 19:02:32
Shame 100 odd other people had to be shot down with him.  But he must haver known he could never get on a plane over Ruski land again....


...or is it all a big ploy to allow Putin to save face, but still have his military problem solver...

It was an Embraer legacy 600 (serial RA-02795) , which typically has about 12-15 seats, and was owned by the Wagner Group. Unlikely there would be any 'civilians' on board.

There was a second Wagner owned jet following it, and that Jet landed safely. If I were Prigozhin it might be a good way to do a Reggie Perrin.
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #7 on: 23 August 2023, 20:42:57 »
He was a dead man walking as the saying goes.
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #8 on: 23 August 2023, 21:06:23 »
Quote from: ronnyd on 23 August 2023, 20:05:56
No problem for them though, They'll just find another absolute barsteward to succeed him.
Or Putin puts a puppet in charge...
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #9 on: 23 August 2023, 21:07:08 »
Quote from: LC0112G on 23 August 2023, 20:33:45
There was a second Wagner owned jet following it, and that Jet landed safely. If I were Prigozhin it might be a good way to do a Reggie Perrin.
So the truth might come out if they were flying close enough....
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #10 on: 23 August 2023, 22:02:18 »
Quote from: TheBoy on 23 August 2023, 21:07:08
Quote from: LC0112G on 23 August 2023, 20:33:45
There was a second Wagner owned jet following it, and that Jet landed safely. If I were Prigozhin it might be a good way to do a Reggie Perrin.
So the truth might come out if they were flying close enough....
I don't think "the truth" is a concept that the current Russian administration understands. It's doubtful that the official Russian explanation will resemble the truth.

There is little doubt the aircraft was shot down. Some debate about whether it was shot down by a Surface to Air Missile (SAM) or by a fighter jet. I was hoping there might gave been a USAF/RAF RC-135 and/or E-3/E-8 loitering over eastern Poland which might have given those that need to know some info, but I can't find anything online about todays taskings. The U2 went north of Norway, so that probably won't give any info.
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #11 on: 23 August 2023, 22:16:41 »
Nicola Sturgeon was lucky and got away lightly!  ;D

I bet Boris thought about it though.  >:D
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Re: Wagner leader Prigozhin.
« Reply #12 on: 24 August 2023, 19:39:41 »
The Daily Express are reporting that some of the bodies are headless!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1805769/Prigozhin-dead-plane-crash-headless-bodies

I wonder if the bodies were headless when they boarded the plane?  ???   :-\
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