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[Sir Tigger KC]

Last week around 200 boats delivered around 8000 young men mostly from sub-Saharan Africa onto the Italian island of Lampedusa, which has a population of around 6000.    These young men will be dispersed around the continent and no doubt some will end up on the beaches of Northern France looking for a ride across the Channel. 

This is invasion of migrants has been clearly very well organised and coordinated possibly by state actors? I've seen suggestions that Russia's Wagner Group are involved. If so it's clearly designed to destabilise Europe and it might well succeed.  The UK is spending about £6bn a year accommodating illegal immigrants in hotels etc, so god knows what Italy is spending and their finances are much more fragile than ours. Italian bond yields are rising so another European debt crisis cannot be ruled out and this time round will Germany bail them out? 

At some point Europe's politicians (including ours) will have to grasp the nettle and will have to physically stop the boats and turn them round in the Med and the Channel. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Whatever action they take, and whenever they take it - it will be too little too late. Damage is already done and its permanent. Cant be fixed.  :'(

[Varche]

Last week around 200 boats delivered around 8000 young men mostly from sub-Saharan Africa onto the Italian island of Lampedusa, which has a population of around 6000.    These young men will be dispersed around the continent and no doubt some will end up on the beaches of Northern France looking for a ride across the Channel. 

This is invasion of migrants has been clearly very well organised and coordinated possibly by state actors? I've seen suggestions that Russia's Wagner Group are involved. If so it's clearly designed to destabilise Europe and it might well succeed.  The UK is spending about £6bn a year accommodating illegal immigrants in hotels etc, so god knows what Italy is spending and their finances are much more fragile than ours. Italian bond yields are rising so another European debt crisis cannot be ruled out and this time round will Germany bail them out? 

At some point Europe's politicians (including ours) will have to grasp the nettle and will have to physically stop the boats and turn them round in the Med and the Channel. 

I think you will find that the EU is spending millions already in Africa trying to combat the problem.

I live in a hot dry 1 st world country. Water is a problem . Lots of towns rationed. Some only have water 1 am to 6 or 7 am. Crops are failing. Olive harvest is going to be dire this year. Olive oil has gone up 52% in the last twelve months. If you live in Africa, why would you not migrate to a rich country with jobs and water? It will never go away. I have no doubt Wagner are aiding the process. Lets not firget the West “ isnt whiter than white on things we have done and are doing right now.

Here is a prediction. Despite all the talk, Europe will never stop the migration, just tinker with it.

[Raeturbo]

So many oceans👍 so few desalination plants🙄 we’ve an abundance of water it just needs management

[Rangie]

It won't stop in the UK as we haven't the balls.

[Nick W]

So many oceans👍 so few desalination plants🙄 we’ve an abundance of water it just needs management

How would that work for Africa?


The only way to prevent this sort of immigration is to make our places even worse than theirs. I hope that even the most bigoted can see the major flaw in that 'solution'

[Varche]

Desalination is a great process but expensive to install  and run. I. Often advocate it hee for a solution to Spains problems. A spin off would be counteracting the rise in sea level caused byclimate change! 80% of water here is used in agriculture. If the farmer had to pay a premium of an additional pound for every cubic yard of water imagine the price hike of fruit and veg.

One day in the ( distant) future we will have to subsidise poor countries. A bit like  South EasT England subsidising the rest of UK.

[Doctor Gollum]

Seems to work well enough in the Canaries

[Raeturbo]

Survival will determine what is spent financially eventually

[Raeturbo]

So many oceans👍 so few desalination plants🙄 we’ve an abundance of water it just needs management

How would that work for Africa?


The only way to prevent this sort of immigration is to make our places even worse than theirs. I hope that even the most bigoted can see the major flaw in that 'solution'

                  Same way as it works everywhere else it’s used, it’s a sad truth that most of Africa are content to live in huts and such (which of course is up to them)  but they have little motivation to strive to enter the modern world. Therefore they’re suffering the consequences of inaction, everybody everywhere starts with nothing💁🏿‍♂️  they will make our places worse than theirs eventually without our help. I’ve typed this with no prejudice merely as an observation.

[Varche]

So many oceans👍 so few desalination plants🙄 we’ve an abundance of water it just needs management

How would that work for Africa?


The only way to prevent this sort of immigration is to make our places even worse than theirs. I hope that even the most bigoted can see the major flaw in that 'solution'

                  Same way as it works everywhere else it’s used, it’s a sad truth that most of Africa are content to live in huts and such (which of course is up to them)  but they have little motivation to strive to enter the modern world. Therefore they’re suffering the consequences of inaction, everybody everywhere starts with nothing💁🏿‍♂️  they will make our places worse than theirs eventually without our help. I’ve typed this with no prejudice merely as an observation.

Things have moved on since the film Zulu! There are 15 cities in Africa with a populaton over5 million..

[Raeturbo]

Are you assuming I don’t know that? And if so to what cause?

[Sir Tigger KC]

And the boats keep coming....  Apparently there are now 18,000 odd migrants on Lampedusa. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

And the boats keep coming....  Apparently there are now 18,000 odd migrants on Lampedusa. 

Roughly 3 to 1.

What is to become of them? Presumably  Miss Melons won't allow them to stay.

[STEMO]

I have a cunning plan. Declare Lampedusa as a landing stage for illegal immgrants, until they can be moved to the EU. Fill it to bursting point, then nuke it