Luton Airport

Started by Mr Skrunts, 11 October 2023, 09:00:45

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Migalot

Is it just a trick of the light in that picture, or does it look as if the vehicle's tail lights and front headlights are on? In other words, was it just arriving or leaving when the fire broke out? it doesn't look parked to me, as it's taking up half the thoroughfare.
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dave the builder

Quote from: Migalot on 11 October 2023, 20:29:26
Is it just a trick of the light in that picture, or does it look as if the vehicle's tail lights and front headlights are on? In other words, was it just arriving or leaving when the fire broke out? it doesn't look parked to me, as it's taking up half the thoroughfare.
:-\
that's how Range rover owners park*  :D

* except mick (Rangie)  :P

Viral_Jim

I saw some commentary from the driver, apparently he had just parked up when the fire started. Car was a diesel.

Evoke Hybrid vehicle
AKA half lithium ion BOMB ,half diesel  :P
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You know the Evoque PHEV is petrol right?

dave the builder

Quote from: Viral_Jim on 11 October 2023, 20:50:19
I saw some commentary from the driver, apparently he had just parked up when the fire started. Car was a diesel.

You know the Evoque PHEV is petrol right?
No , It's not a rusty old Vauxhall , so it's of no interest to me  ;)

wonder how much they paid him to say it was a diesel #conspiracy  :P

Migalot

Quote from: Viral_Jim on 11 October 2023, 20:50:19
I saw some commentary from the driver, apparently he had just parked up when the fire started. Car was a diesel.

Evoke Hybrid vehicle
AKA half lithium ion BOMB ,half diesel  :P


Doesn't look parked to me. ???

Nick W

Quote from: Mr Skrunts on 11 October 2023, 18:51:18
So whose insurance will be claimed on? :-X

The owner of the car that started it or the car park for not having sprinklers?



Any car is made of, coated in and full of materials that are easy to set alight, and very difficult to extinguish. It takes a considerable amount of well placed water to do that, and sprinklers can't manage it.


They're like the fire extinguishers placed in buildings; to aid you in getting out of the building if the fire has blocked the exits.

LC0112G

I was at an ABS club meet at South Mimms many years ago when a car (not one of ours) started smoking in the car park. After a few minutes it was clear there was an under-bonnet fire. We used our own personal in car fire extinguishers to try and put it out - but after perhaps 5-7 of them it was clear we were having little effect. In the end we had to all back off and wait for Hew, Pew, Barney McGrew et-al to turn up. By the time they did the car was well alight inside and out. It took them a few minutes to put out the fire once they arrived, and AFAIK no other cars were harmed.

I know the airfield fire service at RNAS Yeovilton do respond to (very) local incidents around the Yeovilton/Ilchester area, but civil Fire Brigade also have to attend. I don't know what happened at Luton, but if you drag the airfield fire service off station then the airfield may have to stop plane arrivals and departures coz there is insufficient fire cover. Places like Heathrow have (IIRC) three separate fire stations so they can continue flying even if one station is dealing with a shout. Luton, being only one runway, may not have sufficient cover to handle two events at the same time.

Doctor Gollum

The Danes have recently proven a reliable, repeatable system for extinguishing an EV fire with the minimum of fuss and it is such a simple concept that it can only be described as inspired.

Salt water freezes well below zero degrees Celsius.it also neutralises any electrical energy within the battery. Basically you flood the burning EV with super cooled brine and it not only extinguishes the fire, but also shorts the battery down to zero.

They were so confident of the system that they fitted it to the Faroe Islands ropax ferry before the public proof of concept demonstration.

Obviously running around with 20,000 litres of sea water slushy might be considered impractical, but it works.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Rangie

Chaos there according to the news this morning, people abandoning their vehicles to try & book in for their flights.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level & beat you with their experience.

Varche

It will be. I wonder when the car park stopped taking bookings............
The biggest joke on mankind is that computers have started asking humans to prove that they aren't a robot.

Viral_Jim

Quote from: Varche on 12 October 2023, 07:57:18
It will be. I wonder when the car park will stopped taking bookings............

Fixed that for you.  ;)  ;D

Rangie

Had to go to Beckenham Kent today for a funeral, obviously had to take the M25 , several broken down vehicles en route including a Tesla which was emitting an awful lot of thick black smoke, EV  transport definitely a no from me.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level & beat you with their experience.

Doctor Gollum

https://youtu.be/zk0MWDsueMY?si=rBzkPl3MnwEwDxLD

A rational look at the evidence suggests a diesel.hybrid Evoque to be the cause. Once the runaway battery got up to.speed, it burned down through the concrete enough to allow the car to drop through the structurally ruined concrete to the floor below. Which is where the fun really began.
Onanists always think outside the box.

dave the builder

Quote from: dave the builder on 11 October 2023, 18:55:53

Evoke Hybrid vehicle
AKA half lithium ion BOMB ,half diesel  :P

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 14 October 2023, 10:55:09


A rational look at the evidence suggests a diesel.hybrid Evoque to be the cause. Once the runaway battery got up to.speed, it burned down through the concrete enough to allow the car to drop through the structurally ruined concrete to the floor below. Which is where the fun really began.
How very "rational" of me 3 days ago  :D

Doctor Gollum

About the only thing that John is wrong about is the cause of the Liverpool fire... yes it was a Land Rover product, but it was an older petrol model with aftermarket LPG fitted iirc.
Onanists always think outside the box.