Luton Airport

[Viral_Jim]

Evoke Hybrid vehicle
AKA half lithium ion BOMB ,half diesel 

A rational look at the evidence suggests a diesel.hybrid Evoque to be the cause. Once the runaway battery got up to.speed, it burned down through the concrete enough to allow the car to drop through the structurally ruined concrete to the floor below. Which is where the fun really began.

How very "rational" of me 3 days ago 

Except of course that both of you, and the Aussie pr!ck in the video are all wrong about it being a hybrid. Numberplate is/was E10 EFL. Which is a non hybrid diesel.

Unless of course you believe the big conspiracy machine has gone in and changed its DVLA status.

About the only thing that John is wrong about is the cause of the Liverpool fire... yes it was a Land Rover product, but it was an older petrol model with aftermarket LPG fitted iirc.

So he's 2 for 2 then. How very 'rational' of him. 

See post 382 https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/luton-airport.18978728/page-20

[Doctor Gollum]

That front view looks like a CGI scene from a cheap TV movie

And I did say 'about' and 'suggests'' ... whether you agree or not with his inference, some credit is due for his thought process based on the rear view video.

Regardless, cars don't spontaneously self combust without some sort of cause and it does seem to be something of the new normal...

[TheBoy]

DPFs have an occasional habit of setting fire to nearby bits of the car.  So maybe it is a pure diesel car after all.


In my experience, JLR electrics aren't robust enough to be able to do anything useful, like burn down Luton.

[ronnyd]

DPFs have an occasional habit of setting fire to nearby bits of the car.  So maybe it is a pure diesel car after all.


In my experience, JLR electrics aren't robust enough to be able to do anything useful, like burn down Luton.

Oh, what a shame. 

[dave the builder]

Except of course that both of you, and the Aussie pr!ck in the video are all wrong about it being a hybrid. Numberplate is/was E10 EFL. Which is a non hybrid diesel.

Unless of course you believe the big conspiracy machine has gone in and changed its DVLA status.

I can't read that reg plate 

the ANPR cameras would have read the reg of the actual car involved 

[Doctor Gollum]

I wonder if, looking at all the actual footage rather than that somewhat dubious GTA front view... the smoke is even in the wrong direction , that RR had just been collected by its owner just in the nick of time and driven away before realising that it was on fire

Most of the fire appears to be on the roof of the carpark from the external videos and aftermath pictures... still plenty of otherwise undamaged vehicles inside.

[redelitev6]

Daughter works for an insurance company , she was saying they've had a lot of claims from the Luton Airport fire and some claims have already been paid out !

[STEMO]

Daughter works for an insurance company , she was saying they've had a lot of claims from the Luton Airport fire and some claims have already been paid out !

Won't the insurer of the car that caught fire originally have to pay out for the lot?

[Doctor Gollum]

Eventually.

Either those being paid out are with the same insurer as the firestarter or their insurance has accepted that the damage is catastrophic ie burnt out rather than an otherwise undamaged car that the clean up team CBA to hoik out

[Viral_Jim]

Daughter works for an insurance company , she was saying they've had a lot of claims from the Luton Airport fire and some claims have already been paid out !

Won't the insurer of the car that caught fire originally have to pay out for the lot?

Yes, but...

Every car owner will claim on their own insurance as a no-fault claim (also probably will the building owner, and anyone with applicable travel insurance who had their journeys disrupted). Then all those insurers will seek to recover costs from the insurer of the car that was determined as the cause of the fire. If it goes to court (which can take years), the court then buckets up all of the claims by type and makes a determination as to whether each type of claim is payable by the insurer.

All the while, the insurer of the original car will be looking for reasons not to pay out and shift blame onto the driver. If this happens then the driver would likely have to declare bankruptcy (unless he or she is good for £30m or so) and then the insurers may be able to claim out of a pot that they all have to pay into for uninsured losses. If they can't then the individual insurers will have to take the hit on behalf of their clients. 

[Terbs]

Excuse the ignorance, but how can they blame the driver

[Viral_Jim]

Excuse the ignorance, but how can they blame the driver

At a guess, contributory negligence would be a most likely route they would try.

Say for example video footage emerged showing he'd driven several miles with the thing smoking / on fire, they might try to say he was negligent not to notice and pull over sooner.

[Nick W]

Excuse the ignorance, but how can they blame the driver

You really don't understand car insurance, do you Tony?


Here's a brief explanation:


the money in your account isn't yours; it's theirs, and any money you've already paid them for fantasy services wasn't enough.

[STEMO]

The court costs will probably end up being a tidy sum as well.

[dave the builder]

Excuse the ignorance, but how can they blame the driver

Check his Ebay
see if he did any modifications ,like a plug in power booster that saves 60% on fuel , but adds 250 BHP 
Looking at the videos again , maybe he had an Omega power sounder  in the glove box 
No doubt insurance companies will increase ALL our insurance premiums end put extra T&Cs in the small print