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Started by Doctor Gollum, 04 July 2024, 22:06:13

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Sir Tigger KC

Labour have got their thumping majority with 36% of the vote, less than Jeremy Corbyn managed in 2017!  :-X

RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Nick W

Quote from: countrywoman on 05 July 2024, 09:18:17
Only a 60% voter turn out I think most folks are pi55ed off with it all.


That's a gradual decline through the last twenty years worth of national elections. The only one that exceeded 70% was the Brexit referendum. It averaged around 75% for the entire 20th century.


That's unarguably a trend, but it's hardly a recent one.

ronnyd

A few weeks ago i said that if the Tories put a blue rosette on a chimp it would still get in. (Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket). Well, how wrong was i? We now have an ear, nose and throat consultant surgeon as our Labour, :o MP.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 05 July 2024, 10:59:48
Labour have got their thumping majority with 36% of the vote, less than Jeremy Corbyn managed in 2017!  :-X



This demonstrates a lack of enthusiasm by us Brits especially when based on a poor 60% or 6/10 turnout. :-X


Migv6 le Frog Fan

Almsot all votes counted now.

Libdems. 3.5 million votes and 71 seats.

Reform. 4.1 million votes and 4 seats.

I think Ive finally been converted to the opinion that first past the post has to change. Its indefensible in a multi party system.
Its weird being the same age as old people !

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 July 2024, 12:28:02
Almsot all votes counted now.

Libdems. 3.5 million votes and 71 seats.

Reform. 4.1 million votes and 4 seats.


I think Ive finally been converted to the opinion that first past the post has to change. Its indefensible in a multi party system.


Not a fan of PR because it generally leads to compromised decisions......but when you look at the statistics above it makes you wonder if a better way can be found.

I suppose most Libdem seats are rural where 12 men a whippet and a goat is enough for  thumping majority.  :D

Migv6 le Frog Fan

Ive always felt the same, but this really has to change to something better.

Labour have just won a thumping majority with the votes of approx. 20% of the electorate.
Its weird being the same age as old people !

Doctor Gollum

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Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 05 July 2024, 01:10:56
So, 0.9% of the results in, and Labour are 6/6.

However, 5 of those are moot as they're seat that they've held. Whilst the outcome is the same, it isn't quite the same thing as a gain.

Looking at it, in outright numbers: I suspect Reform will see more votes this time than Labour managed last time, and Labour will receive less votes this time than Conservatives last time.

So:
Reform to exceed 10,300,000.
Labour to not exceed 13,966,000.
Conservatives to fail to reach 9,000,000.
Well...

Labour 9,686,329
Reform 4,092,209
Conservative 6,814,650

In the immortal words of Jim Steinmann/Meatloaf... Two outta three ain't bad. But it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Labour.

Under a different system, we could have woken to a Conservative/Reform coalition.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Doctor Gollum

Northern Ireland might be in for a rough ride too now the IRA hold a majority :-\
Onanists always think outside the box.

Doctor Gollum

Onanists always think outside the box.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 05 July 2024, 13:02:37
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 05 July 2024, 01:10:56
So, 0.9% of the results in, and Labour are 6/6.

However, 5 of those are moot as they're seat that they've held. Whilst the outcome is the same, it isn't quite the same thing as a gain.

Looking at it, in outright numbers: I suspect Reform will see more votes this time than Labour managed last time, and Labour will receive less votes this time than Conservatives last time.

So:
Reform to exceed 10,300,000.
Labour to not exceed 13,966,000.
Conservatives to fail to reach 9,000,000.
Well...

Labour 9,686,329
Reform 4,092,209
Conservative 6,814,650

In the immortal words of Jim Steinmann/Meatloaf... Two outta three ain't bad. But it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Labour.

Under a different system, we could have woken to a Conservative/Reform coalition.

Seems low, Al.

I believe John 'grey' Major getting something like 13 or 14 million in 1992 and that was far from a landslide.

Could be wrong though without checking the figures.

Doctor Gollum

Link above was correct when I posted it ;)
Onanists always think outside the box.

Migalot

Quote from: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 July 2024, 12:52:08
Ive always felt the same, but this really has to change to something better.

Labour have just won a thumping majority with the votes of approx. 20% of the electorate.

Agreed. 100%.

Doctor Gollum

Also, to the point of the '92 election, the population was somewhat less and turnout was 79% iirc, so the actual number of available votes available would have been similar based on turn out.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Migv6 le Frog Fan

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 05 July 2024, 13:06:14
Northern Ireland might be in for a rough ride too now the IRA hold a majority :-\

Heartbreaking.  :'( :'(
Its weird being the same age as old people !