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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #15 on: 05 July 2024, 10:59:48 »

Labour have got their thumping majority with 36% of the vote, less than Jeremy Corbyn managed in 2017!  :-X

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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #16 on: 05 July 2024, 11:24:29 »

Only a 60% voter turn out I think most folks are pi55ed off with it all.


That's a gradual decline through the last twenty years worth of national elections. The only one that exceeded 70% was the Brexit referendum. It averaged around 75% for the entire 20th century.


That's unarguably a trend, but it's hardly a recent one.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #17 on: 05 July 2024, 11:35:29 »

A few weeks ago i said that if the Tories put a blue rosette on a chimp it would still get in. (Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket). Well, how wrong was i? We now have an ear, nose and throat consultant surgeon as our Labour, :o MP.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #18 on: 05 July 2024, 12:09:55 »

Labour have got their thumping majority with 36% of the vote, less than Jeremy Corbyn managed in 2017!  :-X



This demonstrates a lack of enthusiasm by us Brits especially when based on a poor 60% or 6/10 turnout. :-X

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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #19 on: 05 July 2024, 12:28:02 »

Almsot all votes counted now.

Libdems. 3.5 million votes and 71 seats.

Reform. 4.1 million votes and 4 seats.

I think Ive finally been converted to the opinion that first past the post has to change. Its indefensible in a multi party system.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #20 on: 05 July 2024, 12:35:03 »

Almsot all votes counted now.

Libdems. 3.5 million votes and 71 seats.

Reform. 4.1 million votes and 4 seats.


I think Ive finally been converted to the opinion that first past the post has to change. Its indefensible in a multi party system.


Not a fan of PR because it generally leads to compromised decisions......but when you look at the statistics above it makes you wonder if a better way can be found.

I suppose most Libdem seats are rural where 12 men a whippet and a goat is enough for  thumping majority.  :D
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #21 on: 05 July 2024, 12:52:08 »

Ive always felt the same, but this really has to change to something better.

Labour have just won a thumping majority with the votes of approx. 20% of the electorate.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #22 on: 05 July 2024, 13:02:37 »

So, 0.9% of the results in, and Labour are 6/6.

However, 5 of those are moot as they're seat that they've held. Whilst the outcome is the same, it isn't quite the same thing as a gain.

Looking at it, in outright numbers: I suspect Reform will see more votes this time than Labour managed last time, and Labour will receive less votes this time than Conservatives last time.

So:
Reform to exceed 10,300,000.
Labour to not exceed 13,966,000.
Conservatives to fail to reach 9,000,000.
Well...

Labour 9,686,329
Reform 4,092,209
Conservative 6,814,650

In the immortal words of Jim Steinmann/Meatloaf... Two outta three ain't bad. But it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Labour.

Under a different system, we could have woken to a Conservative/Reform coalition.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #23 on: 05 July 2024, 13:06:14 »

Northern Ireland might be in for a rough ride too now the IRA hold a majority :-\
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #25 on: 05 July 2024, 13:28:06 »

So, 0.9% of the results in, and Labour are 6/6.

However, 5 of those are moot as they're seat that they've held. Whilst the outcome is the same, it isn't quite the same thing as a gain.

Looking at it, in outright numbers: I suspect Reform will see more votes this time than Labour managed last time, and Labour will receive less votes this time than Conservatives last time.

So:
Reform to exceed 10,300,000.
Labour to not exceed 13,966,000.
Conservatives to fail to reach 9,000,000.
Well...

Labour 9,686,329
Reform 4,092,209
Conservative 6,814,650

In the immortal words of Jim Steinmann/Meatloaf... Two outta three ain't bad. But it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Labour.

Under a different system, we could have woken to a Conservative/Reform coalition.

Seems low, Al.

I believe John 'grey' Major getting something like 13 or 14 million in 1992 and that was far from a landslide.

Could be wrong though without checking the figures.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #26 on: 05 July 2024, 13:44:33 »

Link above was correct when I posted it ;)
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #27 on: 05 July 2024, 15:04:44 »

Ive always felt the same, but this really has to change to something better.

Labour have just won a thumping majority with the votes of approx. 20% of the electorate.

Agreed. 100%.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #28 on: 05 July 2024, 15:22:36 »

Also, to the point of the '92 election, the population was somewhat less and turnout was 79% iirc, so the actual number of available votes available would have been similar based on turn out.
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Re: Election Night...
« Reply #29 on: 05 July 2024, 16:34:38 »

Northern Ireland might be in for a rough ride too now the IRA hold a majority :-\

Heartbreaking.  :'( :'(
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