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Started by Drewomega, 13 August 2024, 18:28:07

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Drewomega

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YZ250

It's a lovely thought  :y but unfortunately for us our government is spineless.  ::)  Our current government is more likely to close the churches and keep the mosques so as not to offend any visitors.  ::)
I would say 'God help us' but I think it's gone too far down the line for anyone to save us. Does that make me a far right thug.   :-\
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TheBoy

Quote from: YZ250 on 13 August 2024, 19:06:38
Does that make me a far right thug.   :-\
Obviously.  Just like I'm a racist because I have some black and asian friends...   ...hence I failed that course...
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Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Drewomega on 13 August 2024, 18:28:07
Its time WE did.. >:( >:(

No chance.  During the recent riots the regime announced they were going to spend £30 million to increase security for Mosques.  ::)

That's despite the fact that according to the Chancellor telling anyone who will listen, that she has inherited the worst set of economic circumstances since WW2, there's an alleged £20 billion black hole in the public finances, and there were gangs of tooled up Muslim men roaming the streets doing their own 'security' anyway!  :-X
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Doctor Gollum

Whilst the actions in Germany are visually impressive, I suspect all that will actually happen is that all the negative aspects will get driven underground. And that's not a good thing.

The real issue stems from not policing the nefarious activities robustly. Treat everyone the same and the system works. The second you start treating sections differently, you lose the ability to effectively maintain law and order. Unfortunately, every time the lefty dogooding morons get in, more and more leeway is given to various groups and eventually you end up with actual anarchy which is why everything seems so screwed up.

Good luck to the Germans, they're going to need it.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Rangie

They have already said years ago that they will not be happy until the flag of Islam is flying in Downing Street, and our spineless leaders regardless of which political party are letting it happen.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level & beat you with their experience.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

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Quote from: YZ250 on 13 August 2024, 19:06:38
It's a lovely thought  :y but unfortunately for us our government is spineless.  ::) Our current government is more likely to close the churches and keep the mosques so as not to offend any visitors.  ::)
I would say 'God help us' but I think it's gone too far down the line for anyone to save us. Does that make me a far right thug.   :-\

This.

Also, how is the Manchester airport attack progressing? ::)



Doctor Gollum

Using words like Mancchester Airport Attack only serves to sensationalise things.

It was a brawl plain and simple and the initial Police response was ill considered. Which is why it ended up the way that it did.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 14 August 2024, 18:07:25
Using words like Mancchester Airport Attack only serves to sensationalise things.

It was a brawl plain and simple and the initial Police response was ill considered. Which is why it ended up the way that it did.

Something happened that made the police go and look for those men, and the way that the police didn't hesitate to try to apprehend them at the ticket machine would suggest it was pretty bad.

There will be footage of what happened, apparently at the Starbucks in the Arrivals hall, and for whatever reason it's not been released.  It was interesting that it was the Manchester Evening News that released the full version of events by the ticket machines and not the authorities. I wonder if the authorities were going to release the full video, or were they just going to throw their officer under the bus?  ???  ::)

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye.  :-X
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Doctor Gollum

Indeed, which makes it ill-judged that they effectively sent two WPCs into an ambush... If it were that serious they should have taken a couple of moments to take stock of the situation and respond much more effectively.

My point was that using the words Attack and Airport in the same sentence implies that it was some sort of terrorist event rather than a group of idiots with no self control, playing straight into the narrative. Especially given the convenient box ticking of those involved.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Rangie

Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 14 August 2024, 23:22:52
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 14 August 2024, 18:07:25
Using words like Mancchester Airport Attack only serves to sensationalise things.

It was a brawl plain and simple and the initial Police response was ill considered. Which is why it ended up the way that it did.

Something happened that made the police go and look for those men, and the way that the police didn't hesitate to try to apprehend them at the ticket machine would suggest it was pretty bad.

There will be footage of what happened, apparently at the Starbucks in the Arrivals hall, and for whatever reason it's not been released.  It was interesting that it was the Manchester Evening News that released the full version of events by the ticket machines and not the authorities. I wonder if the authorities were going to release the full video, or were they just going to throw their officer under the bus?  ???  ::)

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye.  :-X
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You're absolutely spot on there will be a lot more about this incident surface, trust me.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level & beat you with their experience.

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 15 August 2024, 01:51:20
Indeed, which makes it ill-judged that they effectively sent two WPCs into an ambush... If it were that serious they should have taken a couple of moments to take stock of the situation and respond much more effectively.

My point was that using the words Attack and Airport in the same sentence implies that it was some sort of terrorist event rather than a group of idiots with no self control, playing straight into the narrative. Especially given the convenient box ticking of those involved.

Are you suggesting that female police officers are not as effective as their male counterparts?  :o   ::) 
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Rangie on 15 August 2024, 06:31:39
Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 14 August 2024, 23:22:52
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 14 August 2024, 18:07:25
Using words like Mancchester Airport Attack only serves to sensationalise things.

It was a brawl plain and simple and the initial Police response was ill considered. Which is why it ended up the way that it did.

Something happened that made the police go and look for those men, and the way that the police didn't hesitate to try to apprehend them at the ticket machine would suggest it was pretty bad.

There will be footage of what happened, apparently at the Starbucks in the Arrivals hall, and for whatever reason it's not been released.  It was interesting that it was the Manchester Evening News that released the full version of events by the ticket machines and not the authorities. I wonder if the authorities were going to release the full video, or were they just going to throw their officer under the bus?  ???  ::)

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye.  :-X
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You're absolutely spot on there will be a lot more about this incident surface, trust me.

Hopefully Mick, but I expect that the Manchester Evening News have had their knuckles severely rapped by the regime for releasing that footage by the ticket machines, which provided the badly needed context to the clip of that lad getting kicked in the head.

Further information releases will no doubt be tightly controlled, although I see that it has now been handed over to the CPS for thir consideration. Would anyone be surprised if it gets kicked into the long grass?  ???

Meanwhile in Chairman Starmer's Britain, expect a knock on the door and a swift custodial sentence if you post anything on Facebook!  :-X
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

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Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 15 August 2024, 01:51:20
Indeed, which makes it ill-judged that they effectively sent two WPCs into an ambush... If it were that serious they should have taken a couple of moments to take stock of the situation and respond much more effectively.

My point was that using the words Attack and Airport in the same sentence implies that it was some sort of terrorist event rather than a group of idiots with no self control, playing straight into the narrative. Especially given the convenient box ticking of those involved.

There isn't always an endless supply of burly male coppers hanging around waiting to bring up the knuckle so they probably had to made do with the 'girlie coppers' who were available.

And female coppers can be attacked at an airport for any number of reasons.

Either way, as Tigger says, I'm not convinced the CPS will do much with any evidence.




Doctor Gollum

Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 15 August 2024, 10:14:20
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 15 August 2024, 01:51:20
Indeed, which makes it ill-judged that they effectively sent two WPCs into an ambush... If it were that serious they should have taken a couple of moments to take stock of the situation and respond much more effectively.

My point was that using the words Attack and Airport in the same sentence implies that it was some sort of terrorist event rather than a group of idiots with no self control, playing straight into the narrative. Especially given the convenient box ticking of those involved.

Are you suggesting that female police officers are not as effective as their male counterparts?  :o   ::)
Not specifically, just that they were ill prepared for what happened when they approached the group. I'm sure they weren't expecting to be punched in the face as an initial response to turning up, but they could have been better prepared for it. They knew that they were walking into an argument and where it kicked off looks to be a tight little cul de sac...
Onanists always think outside the box.