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Started by Varche, 02 February 2025, 09:11:16

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Varche

Well , I take my hat off to him. He says what he is going to do and does it.

What impact will it all have for us in Europe? Increased prices and reduced spending ( reduced growth)? Yes , I know he hasn't changed Europe/ US tariffs    yet.

The fentanyl angle is interesting. Mexico says their government isn't supporting the trade ( my words). That seems reasonable . And that the US ought to be tackling the problem on the streets and organised criminal level rather than asking other countries to turn off the supply.

Maybe the whole thing is a bargaining chip to end the Ukraine war. Trump tells China to stop supplying the raw materials for fentanyl, gives them some concessions ( like reduced increased tariffs) and the Chinese tell Putin to desist. Win Win. Except fentanyl will just end up being replaced by a better, more addictive drug..........

You could argue for increased tariffs on Spain not doing enough to stem the horrific volumes of drugs coming ashore each day destined for the European market.
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I hear that mincing Canadian PM Trudeau is annoyed.....so every cloud.

STEMO

It could come very close to being an own goal. There's a lot of billions of dollars in trade between those countries and, although the treasury might take in a lot more, consumers could suffer badly.
He could give back the extra revenue in tax relief, but surely that would just put everyone back to where they were.
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Sir Tigger KC

Starmer off to hobnob with the Eurocrats, Presidents and PM's in Brussels tomorrow, and he needs to be careful not to get us caught up in Trump's tariffs on the EU.

I expect he's going there all starry eyed though so I don't have any confidence....  ::)
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Sir Tigger KC

Just seen a video on X (formerly Twitter) of the Governor of British Columbia, Canada telling the good people of BC, that he has directed liqueur stores and companies to only buy their stocks of American liqueur from blue states.  ::)

That'll teach Trumpy a lesson!  ;D
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countrywoman

On another forum someone said they now have to tell their customers the garage doors they have ordered are 25% more as they come from Canada, I said tell them its there own fault for voting for the idiot!!

Doctor Gollum

Quote from: Sir Tigger KC on 02 February 2025, 14:02:09
Just seen a video on X (formerly Twitter) of the Governor of British Columbia, Canada telling the good people of BC, that he has directed liqueur stores and companies to only buy their stocks of American liqueur from blue states.  ::)

That'll teach Trumpy a lesson!  ;D
Pretty certain that all the stuff worth drinking comes from red states, so they're not going to be buying or selling much ;D
Onanists always think outside the box.

Nick W

Quote from: countrywoman on 02 February 2025, 14:43:19
On another forum someone said they now have to tell their customers the garage doors they have ordered are 25% more as they come from Canada, I said tell them its there own fault for voting for the idiot!!


It's hilarious: let's vote for someone who'll introduce import tariffs so we can all pay more for stuff because we're morons! That will show them! Isn't it great???? ? ?   ?

Doctor Gollum

The alternative was much worse. But at least the Americans turned up and voted decisively.

Trump has made no secret of what he was going to do and unusually for a politician, he's actually doing just that.

Unlike the utter shower we have in charge who would say literally anything to get elected and then proceed to do the exact opposite things because they think we're all morons.
Onanists always think outside the box.

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 02 February 2025, 17:07:34
The alternative was much worse. But at least the Americans turned up and voted decisively.

Trump has made no secret of what he was going to do and unusually for a politician, he's actually doing just that.

Unlike the utter shower we have in charge who would say literally anything to get elected and then proceed to do the exact opposite things because they think we're all morons.

Well to be fair, the 20% of the electorate that voted for them are complete and utter morons.  ;D

RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

Doctor Gollum

That doesn't help the 80% that didn't.
Onanists always think outside the box.

STEMO

Soviet agent Trump seems to have suspended the tariffs on everyone but China for now. All gob, if you ask me.
Meanwhile the lunatic Musk has employed a bunch of juveniles to tear apart the USAID budget, sacking most of its employees at the same time. Nice work.
Diesel till I die

Varche

Trump is the playground bully. My dad is bigger 'a you. My ball etc.  our generation has got used to gentlemanly negotiations behind closed doors and then a public announcement of the outcome.

I think his tactics are effective just as Putins are. No one called Putin when he annexed Crimea. He has jolted Mexico and Canada and Denmark into life to toe his party line. The EU meanwhile continues to function slowly behind closed doors ( just what exactly was agreed yesterday in terms of funding the defence shortfall they all , mostly, agree?)

Musk ?!  :o
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Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: STEMO on 03 February 2025, 22:45:02
Soviet agent Trump seems to have suspended the tariffs on everyone but China for now. All gob, if you ask me.
Meanwhile the lunatic Musk has employed a bunch of juveniles to tear apart the USAID budget, sacking most of its employees at the same time. Nice work.

Well... Mexico is sending 10,000 troops to their side of the border to beef up security and reportedly Canada will be announcing similar measures.  :-X
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Politically homeless ......

Doctor Gollum

He's not a politician, and because of that, he's short on airs and graces.

But, he said 9 years ago what he was going to do, and by and large did it.

Why is everyone surprised, when, 9 years later, he's doing exactly what he has spent the last 18 months saying he would do?

Telling other countries that he's going to impose tariffs is the starteling point.

It's unusual that he starts with a sledgehammer and then comes back to a nutcracker, but if he's getting the results he wants, then who are we to judge the methods?
Onanists always think outside the box.