Scrapping nhs England

[Varche]

Surprised no one has commented about this.

9000 jobs . The cynic in me thinks they will just be re employed by whatever takes its place! Anyone on here affected?

Is it a good thing? Why didn't the Conservatives do it and next weeks Welfare cuts? Was it just down to they darent lose votes. It almost looks like Labour are doing a better job than doubters could have dreamed!

[countrywoman]

As long as its the assistants assistants secretary that gets the chop and not front line stuff

[Sir Tigger KC]

Smoke and mirrors.  I read that the Department of Health has around 1500 civil servants, so if the Department of Health is going to take over the functions of NHS England they will need thousands of new employees.  I wonder where they will find the qualified and experienced people? 

Can you imagine though if the Tories had done this?  Labour and their corrupt friends in the media would have kicked up a massive shitstorm and claimed that the Tories planned to sell the NHS to Donald Trump or something equally preposterous.

oppsin hypocrites! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

[Varche]

I think that is correct. Britain has about 6 million public sector workers. Spain only has about 3 million and that has been because it ballooned with our current socialist government. 70 million and 40 million peoples approx.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Apparently this is the reaction of a Cabinet Minister when he heard the news that NHS England was going to be abolished.

'I was a on a trip, and when I first got the message it looked as if we'd just privatised the NHS. It took me a few minutes to check,'

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

No its a hell of a lot more than that. The NHS alone employs well over half a million.
Then there are the Quangos and NGO organisations which are funded by taxpayers and are effectively Govt organisations in all but name.
Those currently working at NHS England wont end up on the dole. They will be found similar jobs in a different quango, and in a lot of cases probably use the opportunity for promotion and bigger salaries.
The Govt. wont care because they have got the headlines they wanted and thats the only thing that matters.
Starmer is a pound shop Blair.

[STEMO]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

No its a hell of a lot more than that. The NHS alone employs well over half a million.
Then there are the Quangos and NGO organisations which are funded by taxpayers and are effectively Govt organisations in all but name.
Those currently working at NHS England wont end up on the dole. They will be found similar jobs in a different quango, and in a lot of cases probably use the opportunity for promotion and bigger salaries.
The Govt. wont care because they have got the headlines they wanted and thats the only thing that matters.
Starmer is a pound shop Blair.

Qungos are NGO's. That's the NGO bit in a quaNGO 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Every day,s a school day. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

No its a hell of a lot more than that. The NHS alone employs well over half a million.
Then there are the Quangos and NGO organisations which are funded by taxpayers and are effectively Govt organisations in all but name.
Those currently working at NHS England wont end up on the dole. They will be found similar jobs in a different quango, and in a lot of cases probably use the opportunity for promotion and bigger salaries.
The Govt. wont care because they have got the headlines they wanted and thats the only thing that matters.
Starmer is a pound shop Blair.

Qungos are NGO's. That's the NGO bit in a quaNGO 

Quasi Non Govermental Organisation. 

[Rangie]

Any cash allegedly saved will just disappear into " the black hole" never believe politicians when the say it will benefit the man or woman in the street it's total bullshit, SWMBO & myself were both employed in the NHS in the 70s&80s  it was top heavy then with administraors on huge salaries and it was a total cluster**ck, don't expect to see any improvement which this bunch of idiots running the UK.

[Doctor Gollum]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

No its a hell of a lot more than that. The NHS alone employs well over half a million.
Then there are the Quangos and NGO organisations which are funded by taxpayers and are effectively Govt organisations in all but name.
Those currently working at NHS England wont end up on the dole. They will be found similar jobs in a different quango, and in a lot of cases probably use the opportunity for promotion and bigger salaries.
The Govt. wont care because they have got the headlines they wanted and thats the only thing that matters.
Starmer is a pound shop Blair.

Qungos are NGO's. That's the NGO bit in a quaNGO 

That typo is alot nearer the mark than the official translation.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

Some depressing figures here for you Opti.
Over 6 million work in the public sector. Governemt jobs are growing at a rate of 1000 per week.  The NHS workforce has now passed the 2 million mark ! 
https://order-order.com/2025/03/20/central-government-workers-hits-highest-ever-level-as-public-sector-grows/


And over half of adults in the UK now rely on the state for their income. We are a long way down the road to ruin.
https://order-order.com/2025/03/20/majority-of-british-adults-rely-on-state-for-their-income/

[ronnyd]

I hear there are roughly 500,000 civil servants in the UK.

Can't be right, can it?

Some depressing figures here for you Opti.
Over 6 million work in the public sector. Governemt jobs are growing at a rate of 1000 per week.  The NHS workforce has now passed the 2 million mark ! 
https://order-order.com/2025/03/20/central-government-workers-hits-highest-ever-level-as-public-sector-grows/


And over half of adults in the UK now rely on the state for their income. We are a long way down the road to ruin.
https://order-order.com/2025/03/20/majority-of-british-adults-rely-on-state-for-their-income/

That's a price we pay for getting all (or most) of our consumer stuff made in the third world by countries who despise us.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Also the price we pay for the Gordon Browns "client state", which the Tories didnt attempt to reverse during their 14 years in Govt.