PHEV

[Mr Skrunts]

After looking into business car insurance and looking at all things related, it would be as shame to start racking up up high mileage on the Omega Its only 58k on it and is hardly used, so to suddenly add 400/800 a week on it is a shame and at 22/34MPG is* rather expensive to run.

Googled the most Economical PHEV to see what came and was surprised to see the MG HS with a quoted     564.96 mpg 299BHP and 6.8 0 to 60 was there as an option with a Toyota Yaris.

Not as ugly as the early modern MG cars.

But might at least go have a test drive.

With the high mileage I would prefer something more spacious like the old Senator or the Scorpio 2.9

Would happily go for comfort over MPG, but even returning half that MPG  is over 10x the Omega

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

[Sir Tigger KC]

Any thoughts for a comfy economical suggestion welcome (Prefer and estate)

Can't wait to see what old jalopies Al comes up with this time! 

[Viral_Jim]

How economical a PHEV is in the real world has everything to do with the length of your journey. The 500+ mpg will be over a standard test route (50 miles maybe?) so if the car does most of it on pure EV that will skew the figures. Once the initial battery is depleted, I doubt the PHEV will do better than the average diesel euro box.

If your max length of journey allows it (150miles ish max) then an EV charged at home is cheap to run. Otherwise id be looking at a diesel exec saloon to put those kind of miles on.
If it were me I'd have an F10 BMW 520/530d.

Al will suggest an e class of some variety I'm sure 

[ronnyd]

My eldest has a Nissan Joke hybrid, the range on the electric side is a joke.  , 1.5 to 2 mls. 

[YZ250]

How economical a PHEV is in the real world has everything to do with the length of your journey. The 500+ mpg will be over a standard test route (50 miles maybe?) so if the car does most of it on pure EV that will skew the figures. Once the initial battery is depleted, I doubt the PHEV will do better than the average diesel euro box.

If your max length of journey allows it (150miles ish max) then an EV charged at home is cheap to run. Otherwise id be looking at a diesel exec saloon to put those kind of miles on.
If it were me I'd have an F10 BMW 520/530d.

Al will suggest an e class of some variety I'm sure 

Agreed. 
The MG HS PHEV for example at 564.96mpg. If the MG did a journey of 100 miles and 60 (it's limit on battery) of those miles were on battery, the remaining 40 miles (its average mpg on petrol) would be on petrol. They calculate that as 100mpg as only one gallon was used to complete the journey. Drive it on battery every day for round trips of less than 60 miles and charging it every day, the mpg could be infinite. It's a load of 'dangle berries' really, but handy if you only do short runs. 

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If it were me I'd have an F10 BMW 520/530d.

Good choice. 

[Viral_Jim]

Good choice. 

My FIL.has one, an LCI 520d SE manual. Other than having the wrong gearbox (honestly it's like BMW punish you for choosing the manual in that car) it's a lovely thing. Even as a base spec it has DAB, cruise control and heated seats, which are the only three things I'd care about in a motorway cruiser and gets easily into the 50's mpg on a run.

It's the car I should have bought instead of the Chrysler, but that was an itch I just had to scratch 

[Doctor Gollum]

How economical a PHEV is in the real world has everything to do with the length of your journey. The 500+ mpg will be over a standard test route (50 miles maybe?) so if the car does most of it on pure EV that will skew the figures. Once the initial battery is depleted, I doubt the PHEV will do better than the average diesel euro box.

If your max length of journey allows it (150miles ish max) then an EV charged at home is cheap to run. Otherwise id be looking at a diesel exec saloon to put those kind of miles on.
If it were me I'd have an F10 BMW 520/530d.

Al will suggest an e class of some variety I'm sure 

Of course 

[TheBoy]

I think my mates old PHEV was claimed to be about 150mpg.  He worked 2.5 miles from home, and struggled in winter to do it there and back on electric (and we're not allowed to charge EV's at our company).

On the petrol engine, even with him being a hypermiler, he was looking at around 25-35 mpg, because it was a heavy car with heavy batteries and a tiny petrol engine.

[Mr Skrunts]

I have a mate who has the 360BHP Pug 5008SW (I think) and he averages 80 MPG he says, he is an advanced driver and relies on his licensee for his job so having the power under foot for him is a waste as he never uses it.

Other than him I dont know any other PHEV owners .

No way I want an EV
Never wanted a Diesel

I saw a few Audi A8 PHEV listed on Auto trader a while back, they tick a lot of boxes for me but just not the estate option but I can live with that.  Plus the AWD adds to the tick list for all the snow we get in the UK 

If I do buy a PHEV it would only be after borrowing/renting for maybe 2 days to give it drive it a like I stole it test drive then a MPG test run. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I am considering a RRS Phev as my next company hack

[TheBoy]

I am considering a RRS Phev as my next company hack

Only because you won't have to pay for the battery modules that fail on them at a cost of £17k

I think there has been a recall on MHEV JLR's with a similar issue as well, the modules on top of the 48V battery, but they're much cheaper (less than £2k for part and fitting).

[Marks DTM Calib]

I am considering a RRS Phev as my next company hack

Only because you won't have to pay for the battery modules that fail on them at a cost of £17k

I think there has been a recall on MHEV JLR's with a similar issue as well, the modules on top of the 48V battery, but they're much cheaper (less than £2k for part and fitting).

DC-DC converter..........its a design I am reviewing as I type

[TheBoy]

I am considering a RRS Phev as my next company hack

Only because you won't have to pay for the battery modules that fail on them at a cost of £17k

I think there has been a recall on MHEV JLR's with a similar issue as well, the modules on top of the 48V battery, but they're much cheaper (less than £2k for part and fitting).

DC-DC converter..........its a design I am reviewing as I type

Ah, so now I know who to blame when I buy one in about 15yrs time

[Marks DTM Calib]

But I will know how to fix it.....(I already do as it happens)

[TheBoy]

But I will know how to fix it.....(I already do as it happens)

And conveniently, I know where you live for when I break it, which I'm sure I will.

I'll let Mrs DTM to get the choccie biccies in