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Re: ATP
« Reply #30 on: 29 October 2025, 21:08:27 »

Thanks for replying boyos.

Last year I had sill covers off and found lots of nasty holes. I welded it all up. Im going to have the covers back off and they’re going to be sent off for painting. So whilst that’s being done I shall go through everything I did and make sure there’s no more!

Last year at same time as sills I did the rear inner wheel arches and rear boot floor and boot flanks behind rear bumper.

So touch wood that is still all good and I can box it up and move on with my life 🤣
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« Reply #31 on: 29 October 2025, 21:19:07 »

Ps I’ll be glad when this shits over so I can relax and worry about the only thing an omega owner should worry about… what tyres am I going to put on this year 🤣

Whilst on the subject. I’m due a full set and I may be getting Christmas bonus. I’ve never had premiums on the omega and I’ve always wanted some. So I’m thinking a beautiful set of primacy 4’s!!!!!
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Re: ATP
« Reply #32 on: 29 October 2025, 21:37:28 »

Ppps, I would also love to put new rear springs on as well as the aforementioned fronts.

I’m more than happy to follow the guides. However with the rear shock unbolted and trailing arm dropped down a bit I reckon I can get the death clamps in. Anyone ever done them this way?
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« Reply #33 on: 30 October 2025, 02:15:09 »

Undo the lower shock bolt and hang off the hub and you can pretty much drop the springs in  :y
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« Reply #34 on: 30 October 2025, 08:27:31 »

Undo the lower shock bolt and hang off the hub and you can pretty much drop the springs in  :y

Not in my experience you can't. Having changed umpteen sets of rear springs on my Elites over the years, yes, I agree, undo the lower shock mounting, but you also need to disconnect the rear track control arm (I find it simpler at the inboard end) to allow the swinging arm to drop further. Even so, the springs have to be compressed to allow removal and refitting, but due to the lack of space to fit spring compressors, this is a challenge. There's no room to fit the large compressors with plates, so you have to resort to using the smaller hook type.
I would argue there is no way of removing the spring by just undoing the lower shock mount and levering the swing arm down, which isn't helped with the protrusion of the spring seat down the centre of the spring.
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« Reply #35 on: 30 October 2025, 11:43:30 »

hi johnny .hope all is well .
i must admit i have to agree with mr DG on this one .undo lower shock bolt and have an assistant press down the hub with their foot and springs come out or go in .
ive done few omega springs  and also carlton /senators like this as well as more modern stuff too .
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« Reply #36 on: 30 October 2025, 11:45:18 »

as regards the rust it sounds you are on top of it anyway having done your previous repairs . this way you don't get any nasty surprises and large areas in one go .brilliant.
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« Reply #37 on: 30 October 2025, 12:10:07 »

hi johnny .hope all is well .
i must admit i have to agree with mr DG on this one .undo lower shock bolt and have an assistant press down the hub with their foot and springs come out or go in .
ive done few omega springs  and also carlton /senators like this as well as more modern stuff too .

I'll have to try and recruit someone with a bit of weight Chris next time I need to do a spring change!  :y
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Re: ATP
« Reply #38 on: 30 October 2025, 14:26:05 »

Undo the lower shock bolt and hang off the hub and you can pretty much drop the springs in  :y
Nah. Something else needs to be undone as well, easiest is arguably the diff.
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Re: ATP
« Reply #39 on: 30 October 2025, 14:39:37 »

If my  memory serves, the first time I removed one I just undid the lower shock bolt.
It was a nightmare to get out, and only managed with my son jumping up and down on a scaffold pole as a lever, while I pulled on the spring.
After that, I undid more stuff so they just more or less drop out.
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« Reply #40 on: 30 October 2025, 15:23:17 »

Drop link maybe, but don't remember ever undoing a track rod unless it was to replace it.

Eibach 30mm lowering springs didn't need compressing even on the front ;D
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« Reply #41 on: 30 October 2025, 16:07:30 »

Undo the lower shock bolt and hang off the hub and you can pretty much drop the springs in  :y
Nah. Something else needs to be undone as well, easiest is arguably the diff.

When I changed mine I’m sure that I recall putting a trolley jack under the diff and undoing the diff mounts, as well as the lower shock bolt obviously. I still used spring compressors partially loaded though to make life a bit easier.  :y
The car was on stands at the time, so the trolley jack was just taking the diff weight, not holding the car up.  :y
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Re: ATP
« Reply #42 on: 31 October 2025, 10:01:19 »

Undo the lower shock bolt and hang off the hub and you can pretty much drop the springs in  :y
Nah. Something else needs to be undone as well, easiest is arguably the diff.

When I changed mine I’m sure that I recall putting a trolley jack under the diff and undoing the diff mounts, as well as the lower shock bolt obviously. I still used spring compressors partially loaded though to make life a bit easier.  :y
The car was on stands at the time, so the trolley jack was just taking the diff weight, not holding the car up.  :y
This is the way to do it :y

Remember to release the handbrake, as with the handbrake on, the cable provides just enough tension to the suspension dropping all the way down. No need to ask how I know this, and how is saves jumping up and down on the hub to release the suspension spring ;D
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Re: ATP
« Reply #43 on: Today at 13:25:02 »

Thanks for all the advice boyos.

I bit the bullwt and new springs en route from factors (KYB BOGOF offer). To be honest the only real reason I want to remove springs is so I can inspect and rust proof where they sit.

I’ll give death clamps a try first and see what happens 🥰

In terms of rust proofing it’s going very well. Finished the OS. Gonna start the NS on Friday night. I’ve had os arch liner out and no new nasties found so very pleased.
I also found this lovely stone chip paint. Goes on lovely and leaves a lovely finish. So hopefully I won’t have to look at it all for a while 😃😃😃
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« Reply #44 on: Today at 13:28:14 »

Oh and just to add… I’ve found a new body guy here in Northampton so front n rear bumpers and sill covers going to him over next little while. I’d love to get them painted all at once but due to money it’s not an option.
But hopefully by spring next year she’ll (he) be cruising once again ready for FOTU 😎
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