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[Taxi_Driver]

Last time i slipped a disc.........doctors advice was take the pain killers.......so i did....his advice was carry on doing as you normally do..with the painkillers...its apparently better to keep moving.....went to physio in the end who put my slipped disk back.....after about 4/5 sessions.....

Apparently im overweight.....according to my doc.....ok i have bit of a gut! and therefore will always suffer from back probs........ive had quite a few slipped discs......

So take the painkiller Martin and find a physio.....

But you will have to pay for it privately......but too much tho....think i as paying about £40/session last time  

[shyboy]

You've got to establish what the true cause is. Most back trouble emanates from muscle spasm, which can be overcome, not 'slipped' discs, (this is major rupture trauma which doesn't repair itself easily). Most important thing, as already said, is avoidance of weightlifting in the wrong manner, and gentle excercise to keep things mobile.
Pain killers help enormously, but conceal the body's pain warnings which can lead to further damage, or a slowing of the healing process. And some of them can cause problems like ulcers etc.
You've got to bite the bullet and go carefully until you know the true cause. I really hope you can get full relief eventually, because it's like entering paradise when the pain subsides.

[Martin_1962]

I have had no xrays and the back has just been looked at, I have been told it is soft tissue damage and will take around 3 months to heal.

It is now just over 3 months

I have given up pain killers because the side effects are worse than the pain.

However I still feel lucky I am walking and alive.

I landed on my bum then instantly smacked down on my back. It felt as though my entire insides were trying to exit via my back.

I really hope that there is not a 3 month waiting list for the physiotherapist.

[TheBoy]

Last time i slipped a disc.........doctors advice was take the pain killers.......so i did....his advice was carry on doing as you normally do..with the painkillers...its apparently better to keep moving.....went to physio in the end who put my slipped disk back.....after about 4/5 sessions.....

Apparently im overweight.....according to my doc.....ok i have bit of a gut! and therefore will always suffer from back probs........ive had quite a few slipped discs......

So take the painkiller Martin and find a physio.....

I knackered my back up long before I was overweight (believe it or not, I was 9.5st, until I gave up proper work)

[Martin_1962]

Even when overweight my back was fine, now I feel ancient

[TheBoy]

You've got to establish what the true cause is. Most back trouble emanates from muscle spasm, which can be overcome, not 'slipped' discs, (this is major rupture trauma which doesn't repair itself easily). Most important thing, as already said, is avoidance of weightlifting in the wrong manner, and gentle excercise to keep things mobile.
Pain killers help enormously, but conceal the body's pain warnings which can lead to further damage, or a slowing of the healing process. And some of them can cause problems like ulcers etc.
You've got to bite the bullet and go carefully until you know the true cause. I really hope you can get full relief eventually, because it's like entering paradise when the pain subsides.

That is why I do not take medication, ever. Except 0.5 aspirin if I'm flying (precautions, seeing as I'm a fatty), and those painkillers when I did the aerobatics on the Kawasaki.

Your body is telling your brain something isn't working right, so masking that will lead to further damage.

Hence my oft used phrase here "a bit of pain never hurt anyone"


As I'm not a pill popper, those 0.5 aspirin when I fly knock me out for the flight.  And those painkillers transported me to a parallel universe, that people from the 60s will be all to familiar with

[Andy B]

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I can only add a good hard bed, a floor, or wooden board  .....

I found the opposite was true for me. We got rid of our 'orthopedic' firm bed for a softer one years ago, & I find it tends to support my back better .......  having said that though, SWMBO always says I could sleep on a washing line!      

[TheBoy]

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I can only add a good hard bed, a floor, or wooden board  .....

I found the opposite was true for me. We got rid of our 'orthopedic' firm bed for a softer one years ago, & I find it tends to support my back better .......  having said that though, SWMBO always says I could sleep on a washing line!      

I'm with Lizzie on this - if I doss around friends house etc, or fall asleep for a couple of hours on the sofa, I will pay a price.  I need my hard bed.

OOFers who have been to the Lakes/Newent meets laugh at my bloody great queensize airbed, but its the best I've found for my back - campbeds and smaller airbeds seem to not give support, and sleeping on ground is too cold (another thing that plays me up).

[mantahatch]

If you can afford it go to an Oestopath and get it sorted by paying for it. Waiting on the NHS will cost you more in the long run.
Failing that go for acupuncture, never believed it myself but father had it for a frozen shoulder and it has never returned.

Mike

[Andy B]

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I'm with Lizzie on this - if I doss around friends house etc, or fall asleep for a couple of hours on the sofa, I will pay a price.  I need my hard bed.).

What ever is good for you. When we go away in the C***van, as the bed is just foam seating laid out for a bed, my back starts to suffer.

OOFers who have been to the Lakes/Newent meets laugh at my bloody great queensize airbed,  .....

           

[TheBoy]

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I'm with Lizzie on this - if I doss around friends house etc, or fall asleep for a couple of hours on the sofa, I will pay a price.  I need my hard bed.).

What ever is good for you. When we go away in the C***van, as the bed is just foam seating laid out for a bed, my back starts to suffer.

OOFers who have been to the Lakes/Newent meets laugh at my bloody great queensize airbed,  .....

           

I agree, and meant to put that at the end of my post - different things work better for different people, so you need to find what works for you.  

[jereboam]

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I can only add a good hard bed, a floor, or wooden board  .....

I found the opposite was true for me. We got rid of our 'orthopedic' firm bed for a softer one years ago, & I find it tends to support my back better .......  having said that though, SWMBO always says I could sleep on a washing line!      

I'm with Lizzie on this - if I doss around friends house etc, or fall asleep for a couple of hours on the sofa, I will pay a price.  I need my hard bed.

A hard bed absolutely cripples me - can't walk the following day.  Soft or medium for me!  My wife is the opposite - she prefers a hard bed.  We use a foam rubber mattress on a "spiral" spring base - had it for 30 years - and mostly we're OK.  Never found anything more comfortable.  My wife has a board under her side of the mattress.  

As for backache - had that for years, although it's been a lot better recently.  I used to get back spasms that would lay me up for a week, sometimes sparked off by a sneeze or some other minor movement.  Of course, it was never that which actually caused the problem - usually I'd overdone it in the few days before.  

Not quite sure what you include as painkillers, but I eventually discovered "non-steroidal anti-inflammatory" drugs, which helped a lot.  Ibuprofen is one type, which didn't help me at all.  But something called Diclofenac sodium worked wonders.  Not sure if you can get it without a prescription - the trade name is Voltarol, I think - but I never go any where without them, "just in case".  But don't take them for an extended period - they'll ruin your digestion.  

Tried codeine/paracetamol once - I hallucinated - definitely not nice.

My wife used to go to a "manual manipulator" who (she said) improved her back problems, but as far as I could see, didn't help very much, as the pain always came back within a week.  On the other hand, I went to him once or twice, and he fixed my problems for quite long periods.  However, that was 15 years ago when we lived in Holland, and we haven't found anyone using the same techniques back in the UK.

[TheBoy]

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I can only add a good hard bed, a floor, or wooden board  .....

I found the opposite was true for me. We got rid of our 'orthopedic' firm bed for a softer one years ago, & I find it tends to support my back better .......  having said that though, SWMBO always says I could sleep on a washing line!      

I'm with Lizzie on this - if I doss around friends house etc, or fall asleep for a couple of hours on the sofa, I will pay a price.  I need my hard bed.

A hard bed absolutely cripples me - can't walk the following day.  Soft or medium for me!  My wife is the opposite - she prefers a hard bed.  We use a foam rubber mattress on a "spiral" spring base - had it for 30 years - and mostly we're OK.  Never found anything more comfortable.  My wife has a board under her side of the mattress.  

As for backache - had that for years, although it's been a lot better recently.  I used to get back spasms that would lay me up for a week, sometimes sparked off by a sneeze or some other minor movement.  Of course, it was never that which actually caused the problem - usually I'd overdone it in the few days before.  

Not quite sure what you include as painkillers, but I eventually discovered "non-steroidal anti-inflammatory" drugs, which helped a lot.  Ibuprofen is one type, which didn't help me at all.  But something called Diclofenac sodium worked wonders.  Not sure if you can get it without a prescription - the trade name is Voltarol, I think - but I never go any where without them, "just in case".  But don't take them for an extended period - they'll ruin your digestion.  

Tried codeine/paracetamol once - I hallucinated - definitely not nice.

My wife used to go to a "manual manipulator" who (she said) improved her back problems, but as far as I could see, didn't help very much, as the pain always came back within a week.  On the other hand, I went to him once or twice, and he fixed my problems for quite long periods.  However, that was 15 years ago when we lived in Holland, and we haven't found anyone using the same techniques back in the UK.

LOL, been there a few times.

[tunnie]

get a bit of WD40 in there

[theolodian]

The one thing that I forgot is get a back support belt thingie from Boots.  Wearing that is the only way to really reduce the strain on your back and let it heal.  If you can't wear it while sitting then make sure that you have a good support pillow.

This should let you get to the point where you can start doing stretches.  It will start to feel better in a couple of days, but you need to wear it for a couple of weeks at least.  Then keep it in the car or relatively close by in case of a relapse.