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amigov6

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Wi fi question.
« on: 26 October 2008, 21:25:15 »

On tuesday i've got to lift to 20ft containers off a place called Ellon between Aberdeen & Peterhead. I've been up last week & got all day tomorrow to drive up but is there a free wifi  there i can tap into? Been told if on or near any mcd's or industrial est. signals are'nt blocked so can go online with the lappy. Got 12v power supply ready & truck has a 12v feed.
    Any ideas please? :-/
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #1 on: 26 October 2008, 21:29:15 »

macdonalds have free wifi, park up near one and you should be sorted
or try here
http://www.myhotspots.co.uk/
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #2 on: 26 October 2008, 21:30:52 »

if its a unsecured wifi network then your laptop should pick it up if you are within range, it will have name and there should be no padlock next to the name.

Some people would argue that morally jumping on an insecure wifi network is wrong.....for a little bit of personal surfing i see no issue
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #3 on: 26 October 2008, 21:46:40 »

Somebody was prosecuted for theft of internet a few months ago, by using WiFi to tap in. A bit tricky to trace I recon, but........  I guess the "establishment" were trying to send a message.........

I remember we used to have an unsecured wifi network at my son's place. They checked and found massive use of the net via wifi, and new people had just moved in over the road.  :o  They spent the next week sending all sorts of spybots, hacks etc trying to disrupt them  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #4 on: 26 October 2008, 21:46:55 »

There is a law against it - the Communications Act 2003.

Only one person has been convicted and 2 others cautioned, all 3 trying to use personal WLANs. (1 of them was quite persistent... :))

If it is public and "free" anyway, you should be fine...
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #5 on: 26 October 2008, 21:48:37 »

If its non commercial, then remember the owner may be on Pay As You Go.

If commercial, it should be secured, and VPN'd.

If its a public hotspot, as at some services, then all well and good :)
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« Reply #6 on: 26 October 2008, 23:48:41 »

swallow undy arms main st ellon ab41 6bl according to find my hotspots and its a mycloud so its free... hope this helps.... :y
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #7 on: 27 October 2008, 02:21:18 »

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Somebody was prosecuted for theft of internet a few months ago, by using WiFi to tap in

Very interesting..

To complete the offence of theft, you have to prove (among other things) that a) the item was tangible, and b) the accused intended to permently deprive the owner of the item.

I'm not sure how either of these apply to a wireless internet connection   :-/              
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #8 on: 27 October 2008, 02:23:40 »

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Somebody was prosecuted for theft of internet a few months ago, by using WiFi to tap in

Very interesting..

To complete the offence of theft, you have to prove (among other things) that a) the item was tangible, and b) the accused intended to permently deprive the owner of the item.

I'm not sure how either of these apply to a wireless internet connection   :-/              

By the way, before anyone shoots me down, this info is legitimately in the public doman ;)
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #9 on: 27 October 2008, 07:40:29 »

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Somebody was prosecuted for theft of internet a few months ago, by using WiFi to tap in

Very interesting..

To complete the offence of theft, you have to prove (among other things) that a) the item was tangible, and b) the accused intended to permently deprive the owner of the item.
I'm not sure how either of these apply to a wireless internet connection   :-/              
easy when using said connection costs the owner extra money.

Also, remember that it is a civil and criminal offence (depending on how/where you do it) to gain unauthorised access to systems.
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #10 on: 27 October 2008, 11:50:49 »

Oh what a lovely can of worms we have opened :-)

Many PC's will connect themselves automatically to an unsecured wireless access point, I know it's a little pedantic of me as I am sure this sort of thing only lands up in a court if the offending connection isn't terminated when asked, but still, who are we going to prosecute, the computer :-)
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #11 on: 27 October 2008, 12:06:20 »

One more thing... where public WiFi is available, e.g. McDonalds or Starbucks, if the small print says 'for customers use only' then squatting in the car park with a lappy is still potentially an offence... juts as parking in a superstore car park when you are not actually going into the shop can be considered trespassing on private property as permission is only granted to customers.

Not that I see anyone actually getting done for using WiFi at a McDonalds car park, but this is what the legal implications are.





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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #12 on: 27 October 2008, 13:36:32 »

From my recollection of the wifi prosecution, the guy had parked up near to where there was supposed to be a Public wifi and picked what he thought was it. Turns out it was an unsecured wifi in a nearby cafe and he was found guilty even though the cafe owner said she didn't mind him using it. Enforcement to the letter rather than the spirit since it is almost impossible to know whether the node you connect to really is public rather than just badly setup. Would help if all the public ones had a consistent naming convention

Almost forgot....Theft includes 'obtaining pecuniary advantage'  ie saving money by not spending pay as you go minutes or similar
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #13 on: 27 October 2008, 13:51:58 »

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From my recollection of the wifi prosecution, the guy had parked up near to where there was supposed to be a Public wifi and picked what he thought was it. Turns out it was an unsecured wifi in a nearby cafe and he was found guilty even though the cafe owner said she didn't mind him using it. Enforcement to the letter rather than the spirit since it is almost impossible to know whether the node you connect to really is public rather than just badly setup. Would help if all the public ones had a consistent naming convention

Almost forgot....Theft includes 'obtaining pecuniary advantage'  ie saving money by not spending pay as you go minutes or similar


If the the cafe owner didn't mind how can this be offence??? :o
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Re: Wi fi question.
« Reply #14 on: 27 October 2008, 14:05:41 »

>If the the cafe owner didn't mind how can this be offence??? Shocked

Because it was in America LOL
State laws over there make our daftest laws look sensible
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276720,00.html
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