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kris9128

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any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« on: 30 October 2008, 18:22:05 »

was toy fighting with little lad earlier. dog was in the kitchen watching thru the baby gate. little lad starts his usual high pitch screaming and wailing. all of a sudden dog clears the baby gate and bites my arm then stands there growling like it wants to tear my throat out. bite never drew blood but i definatly felt it.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #1 on: 30 October 2008, 18:26:05 »

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was toy fighting with little lad earlier. dog was in the kitchen watching thru the baby gate. little lad starts his usual high pitch screaming and wailing. all of a sudden dog clears the baby gate and bites my arm then stands there growling like it wants to tear my throat out. bite never drew blood but i definatly felt it.

I think you'd be right in your conclusion... The dog is only doing what it thinks is correct... Defending the little one.

But... How confident are you that he was only defending and not enraged by the noise  :-/ :-/ Just playing devil's advocate for a second ::) ::)

IMO, I think your decision is right and, only going by your judgement, would say that the pup is doing what you'd want it to do... Defend your family. Just keep an eye on it just in case!
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #2 on: 30 October 2008, 18:30:06 »

i hear what you're saying mate, yes she was defending him. they're like best mates really. where ever he goes she's not far behind. she goes upstairs for story time when he goes to bed and he recently went into hospital to have his tonsils out. when he came home she wouldnt get of his bed until he got out, she hardly ate for 4 days. cant fault the dog at all
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #3 on: 30 October 2008, 18:30:56 »

Debs might be the one to ask an opinion on this one ---- could be that the dog was defending the little one, but I am not sure ...... I think ..in a pack it would not defend another pack member against the pack leader ( which should be you!).   Might have been the noise hurting her ears.

Edit -- just read last post -- seems the littl'un is the pack leader !!!!!
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #4 on: 30 October 2008, 18:31:13 »

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i hear what you're saying mate, yes she was defending him. they're like best mates really. where ever he goes she's not far behind. she goes upstairs for story time when he goes to bed and he recently went into hospital to have his tonsils out. when he came home she wouldnt get of his bed until he got out, she hardly ate for 4 days. cant fault the dog at all

Sounds like you need to lock the dog in another room when you want to play fight... Or wear more layers  :D :D :D
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #5 on: 30 October 2008, 18:32:24 »

will definatley wear more layers next time  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #6 on: 30 October 2008, 18:33:11 »

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Debs might be the one to ask an opinion on this one ---- could be that the dog was defending the little one, but I am not sure ...... I think ..in a pack it would not defend another pack member against the pack leader ( which should be you!).   Might have been the noise hurting his ears.

Good point... The Doggie Queen will probably be able to put all minds at erst with a more "Professional" opinion... But I have heard of this sort of thing before and it was considered normal for the dog to defend the child.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #7 on: 30 October 2008, 18:50:05 »

I've come across this a few times with dogs when play fighting. I think its because they have no way of telling if it's real or not. I doubt if there's a problem with your dog, I think he's just reacting as most dogs do.
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« Reply #8 on: 30 October 2008, 19:20:50 »

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I've come across this a few times with dogs when play fighting. I think its because they have no way of telling if it's real or not. I doubt if there's a problem with your dog, doI think he's just reacting as most dogs .

without a doubt, she was only protecting my little lad. like i said before, cant fault the dog at all. just a bit of a shock, she only 15mths old and normally daft as a brush, she scared of the cat and nextdoors rabbit.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #9 on: 30 October 2008, 19:45:30 »

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Debs might be the one to ask an opinion on this one ---- could be that the dog was defending the little one, but I am not sure ...... I think [/b]..in a pack it would not defend another pack member against the pack leader ( which should be you!).   Might have been the noise hurting her ears.

Edit -- just read last post -- seems the littl'un is the pack leader !!!!!

I think that you should be concerned about this....animals can be unpredictable...In my opinion a dog that has shown overt aggression to you and been allowed to do so may well cause problems in the future....possibly to other members of your family.
Dogs that have shown aggression with children about are not suitable as family pets in my view.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2008, 19:49:19 »

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Debs might be the one to ask an opinion on this one ---- could be that the dog was defending the little one, but I am not sure ...... I think [/b]..in a pack it would not defend another pack member against the pack leader ( which should be you!).   Might have been the noise hurting her ears.

Edit -- just read last post -- seems the littl'un is the pack leader !!!!!

I think that you should be concerned about this....animals can be unpredictable...In my opinion a dog that has shown overt aggression to you and been allowed to do so may well cause problems in the future....possibly to other members of your family.
Dogs that have shown aggression with children about are not suitable as family pets in my view.


there was no agression towards litle lad at all, if there was the dog would be at the vets right now.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2008, 20:00:07 »

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Debs might be the one to ask an opinion on this one ---- could be that the dog was defending the little one, but I am not sure ...... I think [/b]..in a pack it would not defend another pack member against the pack leader ( which should be you!).   Might have been the noise hurting her ears.

Edit -- just read last post -- seems the littl'un is the pack leader !!!!!

I think that you should be concerned about this....animals can be unpredictable...In my opinion a dog that has shown overt aggression to you and been allowed to do so may well cause problems in the future....possibly to other members of your family.
Dogs that have shown aggression with children about are not suitable as family pets in my view.


there was no agression towards litle lad at all, if there was the dog would be at the vets right now.

But the dog has shown aggression to you Kris...a precedent has been set.....Just my opinion....My sisters dog bit her quite badly out of the blue once ...and then did the same to her  child later on. The dog was not put down but was removed from the house.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2008, 20:33:37 »

It didn't draw blood - protecting child I'd say
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2008, 20:35:49 »

According to my daughter,trainee dog psychologist,this may be what the dog thought.When dogs are play fighting between each other if one dog goes too far the other will let out a high pitched yowl/screech indicating thats enough and play is over.your dog may have heard this high pitched yowl and because it didn't stop then your dog would have thought a real fight had broken out.Your dog may have been acting as a mediator in breaking up the fight so it didn't escalate into a full fight.Be a bit wary of doing this again in front of the dog and if you do clearly back of if your little one starts screaming again.Dogs do play fight but there are rules about how far it can go before it becomes a fight for dominance and pack status.
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Re: any other circumstances i'd have it put down
« Reply #14 on: 30 October 2008, 20:51:15 »

Once before my ex and I split up.., were having a bit of an argument.  It became quite threatening and I could not believe it when my normally rather timid dog suddenly went for my ex.  She did not bite.., but u got the definite impression it was 0.1 second away if he did not back off.  

She never ever did that again.  Think she just read the situation and went 'on guard', which was rather sweet.  And possibly fairly accurate.  Never had a problem with her again and she never ever posed a danger to me or my son (who was 2 at the time).
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