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Nickbat

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The fat police...
« on: 01 November 2008, 13:31:35 »

I would be interested to know what you lot think of this:

Originally, it was denied that this was happening, but under the Freedom of Information Act, it has now been discovered that at least seven children have been placed in care over fears they were “too fat”.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/health/3277298/Seven-obese-children-placed-in-care.html


"Last year, an eight-year old girl  from west Cumbria became so fat she was taken from her parents and put into care. The girl is 5 feet tall and a size 16 – six sizes bigger than the average for her age. She has also suffered several health problems associated with her weight.

But her parents say they are devastated, claiming her size is due to a medical problem or genetics, not a poor diet.

“Overeating” might make a child a few pounds larger than they were genetically meant to be, but not significantly taller. And as medical professionals know, it’s biologically impossible for food alone to make a young 8-year old child an extraordinarily foot taller than her peers.

So, not surprisingly, the young girl’s mother in today’s news has said her daughter eats normally, is active and plays hard. But no one believes her."

See: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/07/suffer-children-who-dont-fit-mold.html

I am of the opinion that taking children away from their parents will ultimately do much more damage than leaving them be until they are old enough to make their own lifestyle choices and/or receive medical attention.

What do you think?
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Re: The fat police...
« Reply #1 on: 01 November 2008, 13:34:22 »

some parents dont know how to say no in my opinion and they let their children get like they are and dont do anything to solve the problem and maybe convince themselves that it isnt a problem because they'll "grow out of it"
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« Reply #2 on: 01 November 2008, 13:39:57 »

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some parents dont know how to say no in my opinion and they let their children get like they are and dont do anything to solve the problem and maybe convince themselves that it isnt a problem because they'll "grow out of it"
Exactly well said  :y
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Re: The fat police...
« Reply #3 on: 01 November 2008, 13:40:10 »

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I would be interested to know what you lot think of this:

Originally, it was denied that this was happening, but under the Freedom of Information Act, it has now been discovered that at least seven children have been placed in care over fears they were “too fat”.

http://
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/health/3277298/Seven-obese-children-placed-in-care.html


"Last year, an eight-year old girl  from west Cumbria became so fat she was taken from her parents and put into care. The girl is 5 feet tall and a size 16 – six sizes bigger than the average for her age. She has also suffered several health problems associated with her weight.

But her parents say they are devastated, claiming her size is due to a medical problem or genetics, not a poor diet.

“Overeating” might make a child a few pounds larger than they were genetically meant to be, but not significantly taller. And as medical professionals know, it’s biologically impossible for food alone to make a young 8-year old child an extraordinarily foot taller than her peers.

So, not surprisingly, the young girl’s mother in today’s news has said her daughter eats normally, is active and plays hard. But no one believes her."

See: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/07/suffer-children-who-dont-fit-mold.html

I am of the opinion that taking children away from their parents will ultimately do much more damage than leaving them be until they are old enough to make their own lifestyle choices and/or receive medical attention.

What do you think?

I agree Nickbat, but would add that the parents need re-educating for the sake of all parties.  This takes more effort though and I have personnally seen how social services usually take the easy option and act like a law unto themselves (a known fact to the Police) >:( >:( >:( , removing children from families.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

 As you state this should not happen and should be a last resort, not first, unless every other avenue has been exhausted! :y
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Re: The fat police...
« Reply #4 on: 01 November 2008, 13:55:18 »

Thanks Lizzie.

I find this quoted remark rather interesting, though:

"In their crusade against childhood obesity, public health zealots would do well to heed the wise words of paediatric experts in this field, who recently observed that ‘it is also important to remember that obesity remains extremely difficult for professionals to treat, thus criticising parents for what professionals are frequently unable to do smacks of hypocrisy’."

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/10/debate-resumes-in-uk-should-fat.html

and also:


Dr. Peter March, co-director of the Social Issues Research Centre in Oxford, UK, analyzed the Health Survey for England data since 1995 and said “there has been very little change [in child obesity rates] over the last decade, contrary to the lurid warnings that the current generation of children will die before their parents.” He concluded: “There have been no significant changes in the average weights of children over nearly a decade. This can be taken as evidence that there has been no ‘epidemic’ of weight gain.”

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/01/children-hungry-to-lose-weight.html
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« Reply #5 on: 01 November 2008, 14:36:08 »

Sometimes worry about my youngest daughter who has just turned 3, I am hoping she will lose the weight as she gets older, but she does eat healthy food :y
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« Reply #6 on: 01 November 2008, 14:49:58 »

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Sometimes worry about my youngest daughter who has just turned 3, I am hoping she will lose the weight as she gets older, but she does eat healthy food :y

Fried mars bars are not healthy Mike  ::)
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« Reply #7 on: 01 November 2008, 14:53:59 »

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Thanks Lizzie.

I find this quoted remark rather interesting, though:

"In their crusade against childhood obesity, public health zealots would do well to heed the wise words of paediatric experts in this field, who recently observed that ‘it is also important to remember that obesity remains extremely difficult for professionals to treat, thus criticising parents for what professionals are frequently unable to do smacks of hypocrisy’."

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/10/debate-resumes-in-uk-should-fat.html

and also:


Dr. Peter March, co-director of the Social Issues Research Centre in Oxford, UK, analyzed the Health Survey for England data since 1995 and said “there has been very little change [in child obesity rates] over the last decade, contrary to the lurid warnings that the current generation of children will die before their parents.” He concluded: “There have been no significant changes in the average weights of children over nearly a decade. This can be taken as evidence that there has been no ‘epidemic’ of weight gain.”

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/01/children-hungry-to-lose-weight.html

Yep Nickbat, just seems to confirm the fact that "professionals" should butt out a bit and let the parents continue to give love to their kids, whilst providing educational assistance when possible! :y

I come from a traditionally middle class "large build family", who ate very well but always good fresh food, never 'junk', with my sister, I, and our two brothers being "heavy" but never ill.

We are still very much alive and basically as healthy as most.  We never needed social services involvement, and the families being debated do not either!  Just help from the doctors and dietary specialists perhaps. 8-) 8-)
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